Carroll Shelby Engine Company

[lloyds1]

REAL 1

Its called a fact. Maybe you should look that word up too.

[REAL 1]

Ernie: Not looking for support from anyone or friends here. Just saying it like it is.

Lloyds: Yes. thats fine. Play the little dictionary definition game now.



In actuality this issue was dealt with by the SAAC registry and if you were to use the definition of replica literally as defined by many dictionaries every Cobra after CSX 2001 and CSX 3001 are replicas of the original. So stop with the silly arguments. Geez.

Patrickt: I'm sure you would still buy and ERA as opposed to an original if you were a billionaire Cobra enthusiast. Sure you would. I believe you

Hey, you guys have a great weekend.

[xlr8or]

Well this devolved right where everyone expected.

[lineslinger]

Originally Posted by xlr8or

Well this devolved right where everyone expected.

Like old faithful, some blowholes never cease.
Shocking it is...who would have thought.

[Jamo]

Oh hell...nothin much better to blab about.

Just keep it calm is all we ask.

[Gunner]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

I'll repeat what I said for the "comphresion" challenged.

And you'll repeat it every time someone pushes that big red button on your chest, too.

Have you noticed that the other CSX owners are confident enough not to feel a need to defend their choice at length every time the subject is even alluded to? You might take some cues from them.

We're really glad you have an ally CSX continuation Cobra. Really. If it makes you happy to think you've made a better investment than the rest of us, we're happy too. Really. But in the end, the only person it matters to is you (and your heirs, I suppose), so whyn't ya put it away, zip your pants, and find a better topic to harangue everyone about? Really.

[Jamo]

Gunner...Evan's comments are part of the historical scenary around here. He's not going anywhere.

Learn to have fun with it.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Gunner

Have you noticed that the other CSX owners are confident enough not to feel a need to defend their choice at length every time the subject is even alluded to? You might take some cues from them.

They also never comment on this little gem either:

[lineslinger]

For clarification,
My blowhole comment was directed toward the beaten to death subject matter within this thread, not at any of its participants.

[RodKnock]

First the "real" argument is circular and boring.

Moving on. Ford GT's are very desirable. I wish I had one. However, they're not rare by collector's standards. Period. 4,000 less 15%, is still too many.

There's no factual market data to support your premise that a CSX will return a higher % of resale +/- as compared to build cost than any other Cobra replica, real or not. Also, the $75,000 deals were 2-3 years ago, when the market was hot. Not now. Two complete operable CSX's (6000's) recently sold at auction for $60,000 +/-. Slightly off topic, but the an SPF GT40, red P2122 (MKI) sold for $72,000. Licensed and/or continuation, or not, values of everything rise and fall in similar patterns. You pay more for the CSX, and you get more, but not 10% more or 20% more than other Cobras, real or not.

As for the "comprehension challenged" remark, a) you spelled comprehension wrong and 2) sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me. Nee-ner, nee-ner, nee-ner.

Evan, we understand what your shoveling, but almost no one is stepping in it.

[DanEC]

Geeezz - I purposely bought a BB 66 Corvette many years ago to restore with a non-original 427, because I didn't want to screw with the numbers matching hysteria, buying any allegedly matching numbers car is likely a rip off, and I didn't want to hyperventilate every time the original starter or alternator failed. For a long time admitedly non-matching number cars were looked down upon until most of the crowd wised up to the fact there are more 427 tri-power 427 cars running around now than in 1967 and most of the people buying number matching cars actually had re-stamped motors anyway. Few, except the hard core Corvette guys, have any idea what kind of 427 I have in my coupe and I have just as much fun driving it as the guy with the overpriced car and "allegedly" original motor. Same with my 67 GTX with the 68 440 motor in it.

I myself like something that looks very faithful to the original Cobra, but look at most of the reproducition and replica Cobras - very few are even trying to build something faithful to vintage appearance. And Kirkam cars - beautiful - magnificant - but how many bare-aluminum, mirror polished Cobras were running around in the 60s. Real Cobra, Reproduction Cobra, Continuation Cobra, Replica Cobra, Kit Cobra - who cares - as long as it floats your boat.

[RodKnock]

Here's a Shelby-endorsed car on eBay. Collector's item?

Buyer's cost is $150,000. Buy It Now is $78,000.

Nice car though.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=120483933904

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Here's a Shelby-endorsed car on eBay. Collector's item?

Buyer's cost is $150,000. Buy It Now is $78,000. ]

And I would bet the owners of real Shelby 350s snicker at the thought of that car being real as well. But not out loud, though... and not in mixed company.

[Excaliber]

GT350 with a 427? Sure,, (snicker, snicker....)

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

And I would bet the owners of real Shelby 350s snicker at the thought of that car being real as well. But not out loud, though... and not in mixed company.

I'll guarantee that.

While the Unique Performance cars have a checkered history, they do have a Shelby endorsement and I believe they will be IN THE REGISTRY. When it becomes available. Ron, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Here's my point. Really, really nice car, at least in theory, I haven't looked at it. I would love to own it. However, the seller's return on investment is not so good, though in poor economy, and it's a Shelby product.

[Chaplin]

Originally Posted by lineslinger

For clarification,
My blowhole comment was directed toward the beaten to death subject matter within this thread, not at any of its participants.

It's just a coincidence that it applies equally to the participants.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Yes..and original CSXs were built from AC frames and bodies.

Hmmm. Very interesting. Yes.

Interesting. Original CSX's were built from AC frames and bodies. Really? Huh?

So, if you don't have an original CSX, which had AC frames and bodies, then would a CSX w/o an AC body and frame be a......replica?

Sorry guys. My humblest apologies.

[Gunner]

Carroll Shelby bolted the kits together in his garage. What a guy.

[twobjshelbys]

Why does almost every topic that mentions Shelby degenerate into this discussion?

I'll add my 2 two cents and hope it comes back to engine talks:

1. If Carroll hadn't taken the AC body and put a 289 in it, and won races with it (and modified it to the Coupe), AC motors would have faded into the oblivion. You'd like them, but like the Berkeley.

2. If Carroll hadn't made the AC into a race car this forum and the hobby wouldn't exist (or if it did, in much smaller numbers than today). [There are Berkeley clubs and forums too, but try to find one.]

Now go drive your car.

Edit: Fixed "had" to "hadn't"

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Sorry guys. My humblest apologies.

You'll note that the "diddle" remark is never addressed. Ever. It's like it's friggin' invisible.