Future classic/collectibles..which cars have the right stuff? What say you?

[REAL 1]

I think the window on collectibility on these cars mentioned above won't be for 10 to 15 years. With time many of these cars will become even fewer in number. Example, the FGT in the 3 years since they were last produced roughly 500 have bit the dust with roughly the same number now residing in other countries. Extrapolating out at 5% a year gets us down to close to 2000 cars in 10 years or so. Thats less then many muscle cars that are now collectible from the 60s and 70s..

Also...Once the cars become seen as collectible many owners also choose to hold rather then sell reducing the available pool of cars to buy even smaller thereby driving prices up.

I think all the cars mentioned have a good chance of attaining that collectible status. Not all will make the cut, however but some will become collectible and some will become very collectible.

I still think initial desireability and limited production are key and the best bet at vaulting a car to collectible status. Thats why I chose the three I own. The Z8 is also a great example of these two factors. Initial desireabilty was through the roof only to tail off later and the numbers were fairly limited. I agree that the Z8 has the right stuff to be a collector car.

[Jerry Clayton]

I haven't followed this full thread, but the 2010 Nickey/Yenko Camaro is another possibility(or at least for those who own one of the earlier ones)

[gene giambona]

Since trucks were brought up in this thread, the GM Syclone and Typhoon were some pretty good sleepers during the early '90's. They have the appeal of low production and very good HP numbers for the time thanks to the turbo. The only drawback to true collectible status may be the styling....a bit mundane, but this certainly contributed to the sleeper look.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Example, the FGT in the 3 years since they were last produced roughly 500 have bit the dust with roughly the same number now residing in other countries. Extrapolating out at 5% a year gets us down to close to 2000 cars in 10 years or so.

So you're saying that 200 Ford GT's every year for the next ten years will be destroyed while sitting in a climate controlled garage under a car cover.

[Cashburn]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

So you're saying that 200 Ford GT's every year for the next ten years will be destroyed while sitting in a climate controlled garage under a car cover.

I've been to a number of track events in the Northeast and have seen first hand that a great number of the FGTs are by no means garage queens. I think as a percentage they probably have a very high number that see track time (in many different forms). Not as high as the Elise, but high none the less.

[RodKnock]

I was using the little laughing smiley face, so that was said tonque-in-cheek.

There are several in my neighborhood that are garage queens, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, if that's what the owners want from their ownership.

I also see a few at the track as well, but Evan was extrapolating the population of Ford GT's declining by one-half over a ten year period. I have a hard time believing that there won't be at least 2,000-2,500 of them remaining after twenty or twenty-five years.

[Johan]

Crown vic with a push bar.

[ZOERA-SC7XX]

While not a limited production car in the same sense as the Ford GT, the BMW M3 is truely a supercar in its price range and is an incredible performer that can stand next to any of the others mentioned. This car also doubles as a grocery getter or daily driver and can be a terror on the track. These cars hold their value very well and although they don't actually appreciate in value, they often remain in demand for years. The M3 definitely has the right stuff.

[REAL 1]

While the M3 is a neat car I think there are way way to many of them for them to climb to collectible status in the next 10 years or so. The older M3 of the early 80s were made in far fewer numbers I believe then the M3s of today and they do have some perceived collectibility at this time but they still are not terribly expensive.

Rodknock: Very simply, having been a part of the FGT community for a couple years now I can tell you that many owners do drive their FGTs hard, modify them up to 750+hp and many track them. My extrapolation was based on the attrition numbers from 2005 to 2007 at roughly 10% to 15% of total production. My extrapolations are based on the above 2 years which is all I have to go on. I can also buy that 2000 to 2500 FGTs is all that will be left in 10 to 20 years as being in the ball park too but as I said there are many desireable collector muscle cars from the 60s that were produced in equal or more numbers to the FGT.