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12-17-2009, 10:46 AM
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Just for fun ! All around mid forties for a roller ERA/SPF/CSX Whats your choice ? what options?
SDR
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12-17-2009, 10:59 AM
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All of the above. For price it's SPF, ERA, CSX. For quickness in getting the car it's SPF, CSX, ERA. Regardess, I'd get a Roush SB stroker with a reasonable OD. I want to turn around 1,900 at 60MPH. What are guys getting for wheels now-a-days, 15, 17?
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12-17-2009, 01:39 PM
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I'll answer your question with a question, "Have you even personally looked closely at all three (in the flesh), or are you just performing a quick straw poll?"
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12-17-2009, 01:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedBarchetta
I'll answer your question with a question, "Have you even personally looked closely at all three (in the flesh), or are you just performing a quick straw poll?"
-Dean
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Good Question I have never seen an ERA or A CSX only SPF (i think) and driven in , get this , a right hand drive DAX cobra and various smaller companys ie: lonestar
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12-17-2009, 01:55 PM
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I'd be surprised if you can find a new painted roller in ERA for the same price as a new SPF roller. CSX are more expensive for various reasons. There are numerous threads on this web site that discuss (debate?) the nuances between the three you have narrowed your search to. You really can't go wrong with any of them. All I tell people is to LOOK at as many as they can and buy as much car as they can afford. You generally get what you pay for in this hobby and that rule-of-thumb applies in most cases. Good luck in your search/decision!
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12-17-2009, 02:00 PM
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I guess the hypothetical 40's... 
ERA factory built as an example? (Home built depend on builder talent)
Originality standpoint:
CSX
ERA
SPF
Vintage racing standpoint:
CSX as I think they are allowed to compete. CS has pull......
Quality:
Each have strengths
Registry and gas station appeal; CSX!
Is it real?
Is it a real 427?
etc.....
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12-17-2009, 02:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by somedayaurora
Just for fun ! All around mid forties for a roller ERA/SPF/CSX Whats your choice ? what options?
SDR
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You can't generalize an answer -- you absolutely, positively have to look at the individual cars. Although I don't know why somebody would go to the trouble of building, or having ERA build, an ERA roller and then sell it. I guess it happens, but I've never heard of it. 
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12-17-2009, 02:29 PM
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Kirkham!
How do you choose between several fine wines? 
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12-17-2009, 02:38 PM
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Kirkham!
How do you choose between several fine wines? 
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Obviously you taste each one, and if you can't tell the difference, go with the one that's cheapest. If one tastes like vinegar, you should probably pass that one by. 
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12-17-2009, 02:49 PM
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I'd be surprised if you can find a new painted roller in ERA for the same price as a new SPF roller.
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707 was about $44,000 out ERA's door, including tranny but less paint and engine and maybe $1k in small stuff. It has almost every ERA option including powder-coated frame, Sierra brakes and the ERA rear suspension. I'd say that by omitting the add-ons a roller would get down to about $38-39,000. A painted SPF, ready for engine and tranny, is a fair bit less than that, I think.
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12-17-2009, 03:12 PM
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SPF= not made in U.S.A.
it is going to be nice to have a turnkey minus Cobra
that is going to be built in the U.S.A. by Hurricane...
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12-17-2009, 03:12 PM
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ERA...go look at them...talk to the owners, drive one, meet the builder...SPF is nice but its more of a production build vs. ERA...ERA is a custom built car, you can taylor it to your taste, or you can build a 289 or an FIA car with them...most of the 427 ERA's have big blocks..the owners strive for originality..SPF are fitted more with custom small blocks 351's punched out to 427 etc...in the end they are all nice, they are all going to deliver fun, it just depends on how close to the original car you want to be....Its tough to get a ERA roller (painted etc) for mid fortys there is no discounting, and its a 6 month to a year waiting process (trust me i know)...however a SPF can be purchased as a "discounted" roller for mid $35 with more options as standard (like a soft top)...i'll probably get flamed on this but I just went through this same process
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12-17-2009, 03:19 PM
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Quote:
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ERA...go look at them...talk to the owners...
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I don't know about that... a lot of us are pretty much a$$holes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by rustyBob
it is going to be nice to have a turnkey minus Cobra that is going to be built in the U.S.A. by Hurricane...
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I'm kind of psyched about that myself. I think it will increase the quality standards of other companies as well... including ERA. 
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12-17-2009, 03:24 PM
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I don't know about that... a lot of us are pretty much a$$holes. 
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For once patrick...I have to agree with you !!! 
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12-17-2009, 03:28 PM
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For once patrick...I have to agree with you !!! 
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Uhhh, but we don't have a monopoly on that little claim to fame either. 
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12-17-2009, 03:32 PM
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Uhhh, but we don't have a monopoly on that little claim to fame either. 
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Your correct...can't argue that...not a monopoly just the majority.
Oh and I forgot about the question....CSX since Kirkham wasn't a choice
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12-17-2009, 03:43 PM
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Oh and I forgot about the question....CSX since Kirkham wasn't a choice
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Tony, do you really think the glass CSX is worth the additional money over that of an SPF? 
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12-17-2009, 03:49 PM
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Tony, do you really think the glass CSX is worth the additional money over that of an SPF? 
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I wouldn't hesitate to buy my glass CSX again.
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12-17-2009, 03:50 PM
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I wouldn't hesitate to buy my glass CSX again.
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Who was it that was writing that CSX manual? I've forgotten.... 
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12-17-2009, 04:03 PM
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who was it that was writing that csx manual? I've forgotten....:3dsmile:
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panavia. :d
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