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12-17-2009, 04:03 PM
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....popcorn anyone 
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12-17-2009, 04:06 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
panavia. :d
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Thank you for refreshing my memory. I wonder how he's progressing on that little task.  I don't recall a recent update from him.
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12-17-2009, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Tony, do you really think the glass CSX is worth the additional money over that of an SPF? 
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Notice by inference Patrick didn't include ERA. 
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12-17-2009, 04:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Notice by inference Patrick didn't include ERA. 
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Aren't you the sharpie.  But he doesn't own an ERA, nor do I own an SPF.
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12-17-2009, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Thank you for refreshing my memory. I wonder how he's progressing on that little task.  I don't recall a recent update from him.
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I think Steve is still mapping his EFI on his SPF while building his CSX.
He's one of those multi-tasking type guys. I can do only one thing at time. Makes it tough to chew gum. 
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12-17-2009, 04:16 PM
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... and I stand by this previous post, which is going on two months ago btw.

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12-17-2009, 04:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Notice by inference Patrick didn't include ERA. 
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It obviously holds true for an ERA. 
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12-17-2009, 04:35 PM
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Who was it that was writing that CSX manual? I've forgotten.... 
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What's the significance of a manual? Does a manual enhance the value?
The Cobras that really need manuals are the ones with cigarette lighters, coffee mug holders, stereos, A/C, tops, heaters, defrosters, tonneau covers, etc.
Kirkhams are far less complicated, since they have none of these. 
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12-17-2009, 04:40 PM
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What's the significance of a manual? Does a manual enhance the value? . 
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To a lot of people a manual doesn't matter. Mostly, the CSX manual thing is just a recurring subject that keeps coming up but never gets done. I can think of at least three distinct threads where "a CSX manual was going to get written." And it never does. Plus, it's fun to needle DCDoug about it. Kirkham has a partial-manual, and so long as the Kirkham bros. are alive and well that's probably good enough.
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12-17-2009, 04:52 PM
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You have to look at all three, then depending on your skill level look at the geographical region you live in, if you cannot change a clutch it would be better to live near an installer. If you are going to install your own engine and trans buy what you like. If you just have gobbs of money buy new, if you dont there are some smoking deals on used ones right now, all makes and models.
I cant wait to see the new hurricane also. I hope someone publishes a build log soon.
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12-17-2009, 04:58 PM
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Never ridden in any of the three - I would like to have, but it looks like I will probably have the first ERA in Arkansas. I went with ERA because I wanted a Street Cobra and I wanted originality in all outward and cockpit area appearance. And as an engineer, I liked their frame, suspension and body design. I've followed them since 1980. Like the above post - I don't think your going to get out the door with a painted ERA roller for $40k. They just raised their prices $2,000 also.
Mine is ready to ship shortly after the first of the year. Then I can get busy.
You might want to look at Unique also. They were probably my close second. Their body looks great and the interior is reasonably faithful to the originals, but not nearly as close to original as the ERA. Chassis has IRS and looks well built. They have a long history (back to 1977 I think). If spot on originallity in the interior and under the hood isn't a big concern, you probably could get a painted roller out the door from Unique for $40k.
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12-17-2009, 04:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
To a lot of people a manual doesn't matter. Mostly, the CSX manual thing is just a recurring subject that keeps coming up but never gets done. I can think of at least three distinct threads where "a CSX manual was going to get written." And it never does. Plus, it's fun to needle DCDoug about it. Kirkham has a partial-manual, and so long as the Kirkham bros. are alive and well that's probably good enough.
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I'm sure Sandwich and the other guys have figured out how to put a Kirkham together by now, don't ya think?
Now granted I'm not the right person who should be saying this, but, these cars are relatively simple cars and many, many, many less than ASE certified mechanics have finished them in their garages.
Now if anyone needed a manual on how to really screw things up, then I should start writing that manual.
Chapter One - Do You Remember the Exxon Valdez? Well, I once spilled so much oil in my garage that FEMA, the EPA and the Department of Fish & Game had to be alerted.
Chapter Two - OCD Versus Nuts and Bolts - Have you ever been so obsessive compulsive that you tightened some nut or bolt so often to get just right, that it eventually became stripped? Just couldn't leave well enough alone, huh?

Last edited by RodKnock; 12-17-2009 at 05:02 PM..
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12-17-2009, 05:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Tony, do you really think the glass CSX is worth the additional money over that of an SPF? 
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Patrick...of course...it's a CSX.... 
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12-17-2009, 05:08 PM
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12-17-2009, 05:13 PM
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Because Tony thinks they really suck. 
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12-17-2009, 05:19 PM
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I have been gone for the last couple weeks and haven't been tuning into here. What the h*** are all the "sponsored links" that are suddenly being inserted into the threads?? I go soak up some rays; watch the "really big waves" on Maui ; and the threads turn into sales pitches? Thinking about a return flight! Can someone explain? Thanks for any input.
Bob
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12-17-2009, 05:19 PM
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Quote:
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Because Tony thinks they really suck. 
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Patrick....Now I never said that....as I usually don't criticize another manufacturer's offerings...just the people who drive them... 
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12-17-2009, 05:31 PM
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Quote:
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I can think of at least three distinct threads where "a CSX manual was going to get written." And it never does. Plus, it's fun to needle DCDoug about it.
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I am going to start one. I have already written the chapter on how to properly sheer off a pan bolt. Maybe RodKnock can be a contributor. 
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12-17-2009, 05:57 PM
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Quote:
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I am going to start one. I have already written the chapter on how to properly sheer off a pan bolt. Maybe RodKnock can be a contributor. 
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You should also include a chapter detailing RodKnock's technique for changing oil. Perhaps with the caption "Don't Let This Happen to You" along with the corresponding graphic below.

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12-17-2009, 06:03 PM
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Chapter 3 - How To Quickly Identify A Water Leak Resulting from Overfilling The Coolant Recovery Tank When Car Is Cold - See water dripping from overflow tube coming from said coolant recovery tank underneath car.
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