Ohio: Title as a 66?

[StreetSnake]

I have had my Cobra built now for 1.5 yrs. It is titled as a 2008 self-assembled vehicle. Is there anyway I can get it titled as a 65 or 66. If so, how do I go about doing that. Thanks

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by StreetSnake

I have had my Cobra built now for 1.5 yrs. It is titled as a 2008 self-assembled vehicle. Is there anyway I can get it titled as a 65 or 66. If so, how do I go about doing that. Thanks

Sorry, no, once it is titled and a VIN assigned, that is it (in state).


Bill S.

[Dynamic]

As a dealer I can tell you there is no way that it can legally be done. That is the benefit of buying a pre-owned car that has been titled as a 1965 from another state.

[Excaliber]

I still don't get why it is important for some folks to have their replica's titled as a 1965? I know, we've been over this question before, I just don't get it.

Having owned a few replica's along the way and attended numerous cruise in's and car shows not once has somebody asked to see the title... If your selling it and show them the title the inevitable question will be, "So when was it built, really?" Kind of deflating at the point I think.

[StreetSnake]

Excaliber,

I completely agree but if trying to sell or trade to a consigner they can't ship a self-assembled car overseas. At least thats what i've been told. Also, is it that there is fear of legislation making it difficult for us to keep/sell our cars?

[Ronbo]

Depends on the state, looking over the titling process here in FL the kit cars have to meet emissions as well as have air bags. Thankfully we have the TL-48 which lets you title as the year the car replicates.

Most states will honor what the car was originally titled as, so that helps down the road if you sell it.

So, yes it matters.

[Double Venom]

In Ohio!? Don't even try it!

DV-The 'Only Licensed new car dealer for Self Assembled Vehicles' in "Ohio"!

[Excaliber]

Well even California will technically accept a title from another state, say as a year 1965. Technically, but it better be a really clean and straight up title and even then there is some risk involved.

As to consignment over seas. I almost had my car sold at one point to a fellow in Norway. My car was titled as a 1965 in Hawaii (still is actually). Norway didn't care, they wanted documentation of when the car was FIRST registered or other "proof" of the actual year of build. Which was 1986, the sale fell through. We even looked at the possibility of going through Germany. Whew, it got so complicated I decided not to sell, to much dam paper work, phone call's, emails, faxes. The '65 title didn't mean squat when the smoke cleared.

California would NOT accept my 1965 Hawaii title as legit, by the way. There not completely stupid when it comes to replica's...

[Ronbo]

Originally Posted by Double Venom

In Ohio!? Don't even try it!

DV-The 'Only Licensed new car dealer for Self Assembled Vehicles' in "Ohio"!

As good a reason as any to leave... (I did) You get as much enjoyment out of a Cobra as you do a swimming pool.

Excal, TL-48 is "straight up and clean". Wether Kalifornia wishes to recognize it is as such is not reflective on someone titling in good faith.

[noblec5]

I bought mine from Arizona and it was titled as a 1965 shelby. Went to the Ohio DMV and they would not bite on that one. So its a 2001 assembled vehicle! Note: my friend built a 33 ford from the ground up. not a original part in it, V6 EFI all custom coachwork etc etc...yep, titled as a 33'. Figure that one out!

[jwd]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

I still don't get why it is important for some folks to have their replica's titled as a 1965? I know, we've been over this question before, I just don't get it.

Having owned a few replica's along the way and attended numerous cruise in's and car shows not once has somebody asked to see the title... If your selling it and show them the title the inevitable question will be, "So when was it built, really?" Kind of deflating at the point I think.

In Washington, the advantage of being titled as a 1965:
1. No emission testing
2. Can be permanently registered - no annual fees or tabs
3. Can use restoration plates - no front plate requirement
I don't know about you but those are very important items to me
Oh, and at cruise ins, I always get comments on the 1965 license plate on my Cobra. I have "year of manufacture" plates on my other 2 cars as well.

Jim

[Excaliber]

Now that makes sense,,, if you live in Washington.

[Ralphy]

One issue I have with a title as say a 2008. If your car is stolen, what do you suppose they would be looking for? Hmmm... a Mustang?

[Excaliber]

That's an excellent point Ralphy. Like Hawaii, many if not most, of the states have the description of the car (often called street rod, SPCN or whatever) on the title. It might say 1965 Cobra, followed by something like STRD (street rod) or SPCN or some other "code". The first year sold might not be 1965, but something like '00. Huh? And what's that STRD doing in there? Enough ambiguity to raise a red flag with the DMV in another state, like California, or Ohio or another country if your exporting.

No matter how it's titled, it aint no 1965, so you need to be careful who your fooling, might step into some deep stuff trying to do that.

[B.M.B.C]

So ok with all that said, what state will still title a car as a `65?

[Ralphy]

In Ga, I could not get them to change the make. However I talked the person into entering 1965 427 AC Cobra under model. I have an 86, so in one year here no emissions.

[jwd]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

No matter how it's titled, it aint no 1965, so you need to be careful who your fooling, might step into some deep stuff trying to do that.

However, many states title the car as what it replicates. Nobody is trying to fool anyone. It really isn't a big deal unless you live in a screwed up state like Kalifornica that decided to be total azzholes and not accept cars LEGALLY TITLED that way from other states.

Jim

[Ralphy]

Originally Posted by jwd

However, many states title the car as what it replicates. Nobody is trying to fool anyone. It really isn't a big deal unless you live in a screwed up state like Kalifornica that decided to be total azzholes and not accept cars LEGALLY TITLED that way from other states.

Jim

I know I saw it in Georgia code once. It states the car is to be titled as the year the body replicates. However we have a kit car law saying the year built is to be the year. Now also I hear there are ways around that in GA with a new untitled car.

California, Ohio and GA are also big markets for the custom car groups, and they give little to no slack I guess.

[Excaliber]

Seem's to me Morgester addressed this issue of out of state title acceptance by California. No problem, they WILL readily accept an out of state title as legal. However, IF, like a Hawaii title is written, it is determined that the car falls under a SPCN, Replica, Street Rod type of "1965 Title", then California won't accept it (as the year of build). Thus, you will have to start the SB100 paper work or meet smog for the true year of build.

Sounds like California may in fact accept a Washington State title based on jwd's post. Perhaps that is a potential "loop hole" route to a California title? Register first in Washington? The kicker might be if you are asked, straight up, what year was the car built and you say 2004 (or what ever) is that prima facia evidence it's a "kit car"? What if you lie and say 1965, just like the title says? Might need a lawyer to work out the details on how to handle all that... The essence of the whole amnesty program is to avoid being caught in a fraud statement, they will prosecute.

[thudmaster]

California will accept the title as a '65..........then we change it to what it really is.