Cammers Who are the lucky ones?

[Glen]

I did the same thing with a 460 PI and made a table in the back of the Man Cave.
I have never seen one. With an 8ft plus chain up front, it must sound like it has a blower on it.

[RodKnock]

What's interesting to me is that about 4-5 months ago there was an original Ford 427 SOHC for sale, all-iron original with standard bore asking $32K. Now the new crate Cammers are coming out and I've seen one priced at $32,500 and KC's at $40K. They made so few of the originals and they're worth A LOT of money, but the their new brethren are more expensive, which appears similar to the prices of an original sideoiler 427 versus an all-aluminum aftermarket FE.

[Full Throttle Al]

My Cobra project took almost 25 years to complete. I found the SOHC motor in an ad in the back of AutoWeek in 1997. A Ford enthusiast bought the motor in the late 60's from Holman Moody and it sat, unopened, in the original shipping crate for almost 30 years in his garage until I bought it. Dyno tag still attached, 629HP in 1967 with single 4v, 615 cfm.

[Glen]

WOW...............now that's a good story.
Unopened.........what a find

[roadrod2000]

My first real job was for a Lincoln Mercury Dealership in western Montana as a partsman in 1975. a few years before that the dealership had ordered in through the "soon to be discontinued" Ford Off Highway parts program several complete engines. among them were 8 Boss 302's and 2 Cammers. The only one of the Cammers that I saw was put into a ski boat.

[dcdoug]

Originally Posted by Full Throttle Al

My Cobra project took almost 25 years to complete. I found the SOHC motor in an ad in the back of AutoWeek in 1997. A Ford enthusiast bought the motor in the late 60's from Holman Moody and it sat, unopened, in the original shipping crate for almost 30 years in his garage until I bought it. Dyno tag still attached, 629HP in 1967 with single 4v, 615 cfm.

That's better than most barn-find stories.

[Bernica]

Great stories! Brings back memories about how I got into Ford FE's in the first place.
When I was young(er), back in the mid seventies in the Seattle area, the guy I worked for was a total Ford racer and connected to all the dealerships with the "Muscle Parts". When Ford pulled the plug, he got word from his buddies at the dealerships to bring a big truck. I helped him load up shelves full of everything you can think of: tunnel port heads and manifolds of every configuration, lots of heads & manifolds of all sorts, 100 or more cams (new in the tubes), cranks, lifters, springs, gaskets etc. I mean pallet racks full of stuff!! You get the idea.
We also loaded up one moving truck with crate motors from Ford, all wrapped in plastic and still with the shipping tags. Three complete cammers, a bunch of sideoilers, long-blocks, short-blocks, service blocks, and some aluminum motors that said "NASCAR" on them. There were also three Boss 429's. I remember that either the Boss 429's or the Cammers had tags with "T" or "S" on them. My boss had told me that this is how they identified the "racing" and "street" versions.
We loaded all of this stuff in a big building out near Puyallup, WA. The guy was a slippery one, and he dissapeared some time after, leaving many Ford folks looking for him. He owed me several weeks pay too. Some things you never forget, good or bad. Ahhhh, the memories....

[Woodz428]

Originally Posted by Bernica

. There were also three Boss 429's. I remember that either the Boss 429's or the Cammers had tags with "T" or "S" on them. My boss had told me that this is how they identified the "racing" and "street" versions.
....

Those were Boss 429s, internally they were very different, even to different rod lengths...not to mention the o-rings for the head connection.

[mdross1]

Originally Posted by Full Throttle Al

My Cobra project took almost 25 years to complete. I found the SOHC motor in an ad in the back of AutoWeek in 1997. A Ford enthusiast bought the motor in the late 60's from Holman Moody and it sat, unopened, in the original shipping crate for almost 30 years in his garage until I bought it. Dyno tag still attached, 629HP in 1967 with single 4v, 615 cfm.

25 yrs! Wow, dedication is the word that comes to mind.Have to ask what is it like driving your Cammer Cobra?

[trularin]

Glen, like your table.

Al, you are one lucky guy. I need some lotto tickets purchased with your luck.

[lineslinger]

My builder and good friend is putting one together based on a new Pond block. Along with the original engine components he is using a set of Ford original SOHC aluminum heads. He was still deciding whether or not to use that 7' snake of a cam drive chain or a gear drive for the top end.
I believe he found the engine in the shop of an old Nascar mechanic he does some work for. Last I heard they were going to drop it in in a '68 Galaxie.

[Gary Stubbs]

I finally heard and in person a cammer last saturday at the Pavillions in scottsdale, Az. It is a well known local and seasonal place for cars. Probably 4 to 500 because of Barrett Jackson. alot of cars for sale also. This one was in an 63 ford. Started up and made my way to see what it was. What a sound!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How it fits in a Cobra is a miracle. Huge but looked and sounded so gooooooooooooooooooooooooood. Lotto here I come.
gary

[mdross1]

I have a picture of a Cammer showing off it's ability to turn some serious revs,with it's headers cherry red all the way to the collector flange.It has been fun day dreaming about having one of those under fiberglass.The 460 will just have to do! Thanks for the ride all of you.

[Sizzler]

Originally Posted by mdross1

I have a picture of a Cammer showing off it's ability to turn some serious revs,with it's headers cherry red all the way to the collector flange.It has been fun day dreaming about having one of those under fiberglass.The 460 will just have to do! Thanks for the ride all of you.

headers glowing like that is usually the sign of a bad tune.

Just wait for Ford to release the Hurricane as a crate engine.
7 liters (427 cubic inches) at 7000 rpm with 700 hp. SOHC hemi, without the 7-foot timing chain, but with dual plugs and injection.

[mdross1]

There was a sneak preview in one of my magazines not long ago about Ford possibly giving us chance to get one of those beauties.Too late for me my car is dailed with the 385,she is plenty stout for this ole boy.Never stop dreaming.

[Dar73]

Cammers...... once you get involved with them it kind of becomes an obsession. I can't say whether the repops are good or bad (I have read some of the past discussions about Dove, etc.) but the price (at 32-40K) is less than half that of a finished original. I purchased a complete motor in good shape for 30K. By the time you rebuild it, add your trick pieces (ie. Hillborn EFI @ $6K, TD rockers 2,500.00, pistons, polish and add all of the bells and whistles, have a reputable builder put it all together for you you're pushing 70K +. Just the way it is.

Originally Posted by dcdoug

That's better than most barn-find stories.

[RodKnock]

There's one on the FE Forum that's still for sale, since 9/2009, that is/was asking $32,000. Per the ad: All standard and stock. Runs perfect. Reputable seller. I assume it could be had for less. He'll even take a high HP Wedge in trade.

Personally, I would rather build a new all-aluminum one with Bill Coon heads and Pond or CSX block.

Post some pics of yours.

[elric]

There's a few running around. Should be some pics in my gallery.

[legenmetals]

I have three being built.The first is an original out of my contemporary.The block had been damaged and repaired(rod through the side).Robert Pond sold me three blocks,two aluminum and one cast iron. Robert knows his stuff and sells a good product and is a straight shooter.The cast iron block is the only one he has made with the oil drain holes drilled for the cammer heads. Other new cast Iron cammer blocks are on the horizon from other manufactuers.This engine will have the original dual fours and end up in a stock original 1966 T-Bird. This engine will have a 4.375 stroke.The stock heads have been flowed and are a work of art. The second engine is all aluminum with Bill Coon heads ,Comp Cams(new style)and Crower billet rods and 4.155 Crower billet crank with Hilborn electonic fuel injection. Art Chrisman of drag racing and Boneville fame is the builder of these engines and has modified these injection systems to look like mechanical(also a work of art no pun intended). This engine will go into a 1932 steel three window coupe.The third engine is for the Cobra It is all aluminum with Bill Coon heads,Crower billet rods and crank with stock stroke and rod length.The other engines will have longer rod lengths. Doug from precision oil pumps supplied all the chain sets and gears that were neded for the two aftermarket engines. I am in need of three timing covers. Bill Coon will soon be producing these too. Its been a lot of fun creating these projects.

[dcdoug]

I think I just heard Rodnock's head explode.