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jmimac351 02-01-2010 05:10 PM

And here I am dumb enough to provide a thoughtful reply. :LOL:

RACERAL 02-01-2010 05:20 PM

About the FFR roll bar..FFR builds a taller roll bar because most tracks make you have one taller then your head.. If I am not mistaken, SPF either made theirs taller or has the option for a taller roll bar.. It doesn't make much sense to have a roll bar that doesn't work.
Hexnut... I tried to checkout some pictures of your roadster, but I couldn't find any.. got any?

*13* 02-01-2010 06:15 PM

You mean we have to wait 12 more days to seem more pictures? Cat's outta the bag, right? Why don't they get shorter drivers in lower seats%/ instead of taller roll bars?

Tim Brewer 02-01-2010 08:46 PM

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This is for you ,Buzz. The caption says "Hal Keck @ Lime Rock 1968"

Buzz 02-02-2010 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Brewer (Post 1024724)
This is for you ,Buzz. The caption says "Hal Keck @ Lime Rock 1968"

Thanks Tim. That car looks like her skirts are blown up in the back all right - even to the point of exposing a bit of her undercarriage and gas tank a la the FFR look.

A quick search brought up this pic of Hal Keck driving CSX3008, courtesy of SS COBRA's gallery, butt asside from being a different color, the rear bodywork (admittedly from a different angle) appears CSX "normal":
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...s/cobra132.jpg

If we assume it's the same car, does anyone know whether it may have been repaired/rebodied and repainted?


EDIT: With a bit more searching it appears that 3008 changed colors a few times, even in the early days. Here are two more pics circa 1966 and 1967 respectively:

http://www.racingsportscars.com/Wate...&wi=&mode=Null

http://www.racingsportscars.com/Wate...&wi=&mode=Null

Even in the 1967 pic above in which the car's color is listed as white, you can see the high rear bodywork and slightly exposed gas tank. These are action shots however, with chassis dynamics under hard cornering and/or braking coming into play, as opposed to static shots of the car at rest. Here's a look at the same car, side on in '66. Her rear end appears a lot lower here, but you still get a glimpse of her underpants in the back. I have to conclude that this particular car definitely has less droop in the rear than most other original CSX3xxx cars I have observed.

http://www.racingsportscars.com/Wate...&wi=&mode=Null

(Sorry for the sidetrack - but with a tiny bit of a stretch this may tie in to the whole FFR old/new profile discussion.)

TButtrick 02-02-2010 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Hexnut72 (Post 1024478)
It looks SO much better. It is still off quite a bit in spots but the truly terrible bits are gone/hidden. Did they do anything about the control arms so they won't break?

huh? you post links to threads where it clearly states they've sourced new UCA's and you ask if they've done anything so the old ones won't break? :JEKYLHYDE WTF? I'm sure FFR is hanging on your every comment. :LOL:

Bill Bess 02-02-2010 05:40 AM

Looks like a great improvement ( MK4)with regards to making the car look more authentic. I do however like the "perky butt" on the current FFR's...give the car some originality in styling.
Bill

*13* 02-02-2010 06:07 AM

Buzz, Thanks for posting the pics for comparison. Looks to me as if a lot of the variations in the car's BUTT:3DSMILE: may have to do with angle of shot & action being applied in the Footbox. As well the FFR body may possibly be a perspective thing. I can't wait to see a full spread of pictures on the FFR so we can get to the bottom of this accuracy debate.:o

computerworks 02-02-2010 06:34 AM

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With a bit more searching it appears that 3008 changed colors a few times
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in '66. Her rear end appears a lot lower here,
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you can see the high rear bodywork and slightly exposed gas tank.
Remember a few things here...

Race cars were often repainted with a new livery every season... or after a major repair.

Race cars usually have their ride height, balance, etc. adjusted for the individual track or event.

The 42 gal tank on the Comp and S/C is indeed normally visible under the rear apron. This is not the tank that would be on street 427s.

jmimac351 02-02-2010 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by *13* (Post 1024780)
Buzz, Thanks for posting the pics for comparison. Looks to me as if a lot of the variations in the car's BUTT:3DSMILE: may have to do with angle of shot & action being applied in the Footbox. As well the FFR body may possibly be a perspective thing. I can't wait to see a full spread of pictures on the FFR so we can get to the bottom of this accuracy debate.:o

Only 11 more days. The tension is building... :p:D

PJ4myboo 02-02-2010 08:38 AM

I was all set to buy a Mk3 until I sat in the Factory Five show car at Carlise last year. It was pretty tight even though I'm only 6'. The Backdraft and Unique seemed to fit me better. I am anxious to see how much room there is with the dropped footboxes.

This certainly seems to be a big improvement all around.

TButtrick 02-02-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by PJ4myboo (Post 1024807)
I was all set to buy a Mk3 until I sat in the Factory Five show car at Carlise last year. It was pretty tight even though I'm only 6'. The Backdraft and Unique seemed to fit me better. I am anxious to see how much room there is with the dropped footboxes.

This certainly seems to be a big improvement all around.

Like any kit, it's really dependent on how the seats are set up by the builder. I have a Mark I with original style Richmond seats that are set all the way to the rear. I'm 6'3" with plenty of room under the dash and have to straighten my left leg to hit the dimmer switch I mounted on the footbox bulkhead.

Buzz 02-02-2010 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by computerworks (Post 1024787)
Remember a few things here...

Race cars were often repainted with a new livery every season... or after a major repair.

Race cars usually have their ride height, balance, etc. adjusted for the individual track or event.

The 42 gal tank on the Comp and S/C is indeed normally visible under the rear apron. This is not the tank that would be on street 427s.

Thanks for shedding some light Ron.

Igofastr 02-02-2010 05:29 PM

I, for one, hope they do an FIA. Even better, apply the body upgrades to the spec car. Best of all, do an FIA version of the spec car. They do that, and I'll sell one of my other rides and build one.

jmimac351 02-02-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Igofastr (Post 1025005)
I, for one, hope they do an FIA. Even better, apply the body upgrades to the spec car. Best of all, do an FIA version of the spec car. They do that, and I'll sell one of my other rides and build one.

They posted these mk4 pictures and some details once this topic started blowing up on the other forum. But I think they are still holding something back. They have the body, now's the time.

"This year we have a very big surprise or two planned..."

http://www.factoryfive.com/whatsnew/...10/invite.html

mr bruce 02-02-2010 07:14 PM

Here's an FiA body for the F5, can't even give it away http://www.clubcobra.com/classifieds...e=SDC11582.JPG

Igofastr 02-03-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mr bruce (Post 1025045)
Here's an FiA body for the F5, can't even give it away http://www.clubcobra.com/classifieds...e=SDC11582.JPG


PM me with the details. Is it yours? How much, etc? I don't have a FF, but may be interested.

Ron

1ntCobra 02-03-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mr bruce (Post 1025045)
Here's an FiA body for the F5, can't even give it away http://www.clubcobra.com/classifieds...e=SDC11582.JPG

Have you tried to give it away to mrmustang? ;)

patrickt 02-03-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 1ntCobra (Post 1025330)
Have you tried to give it away to mrmustang? ;)

That would just ensure that we were constantly barraged with cleverly-spun "Cobra for Sale threads.":rolleyes:

mrmustang 02-03-2010 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by patrickt (Post 1025335)
That would just ensure that we were constantly barraged with cleverly-spun "Cobra for Sale threads.":rolleyes:

You are just jealous because my ERA has a better drivetrain than your ERA :LOL:




Bill S.


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