CA guys. Is sb100 in DANGER?

dave from mesa · #1 (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 06:21 AM

Had a friend over last night. He is a big vette fan. Said he met a GM guy at BJ auction that told him Chevy was bringing out a new motor for kit cars that met Ca emissions because sb100 was going to be repealed. Said I had never heard about it as I haven't seen anything posted here about it.
He also said that FF's new car and there hot rod will be available with chevy motor mounts to fit this engine because of the above fact.
What say ye????

vanoochka · #2 (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 06:44 AM

A major automobile company invested in the production a special engine to capture the lion's share of the lucrative 500 annual unit SB100 market? Really?

Ron61 · #3 (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 06:57 AM

So far I have heard nothing about SB-100 being repealed. The Chevy Green set up was an agreement between SEMA and the CARB people and it is supposed to pass California emissions, but I dont know of anyone who has actually tried it.

Edit: This link may help understand what is going on more than just posting about it.

http://superchevy.automotive.com/120...lem/index.html

Ron

dave from mesa · #4 (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by vanoochka

A major automobile company invested in the production a special engine to capture the lion's share of the lucrative 500 annual unit SB100 market? Really?

His claim was that it was going to be repealed and that AZ was also going to follow the new CA regs. Gm is making the motor to fit CA regs so it will probably be legal in 50 states.
Again I haven't heard of it but he was real adamant about it. Try and convince a die hard vette guy that the GM guy didn't know what he was telling him is a line of BS.

*13* · #5 (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 07:28 AM

I think it is great that GM, if they are, would build a smog friendly engine, but does it look 60's authentic? If not they are still cutting out a huge portion of the Kit guys. I can't imagine building a Superformance GrandSport Vette with a Smog motor in it. That's just plain silly.

Got the Bug · #6 (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron61

So far I have heard nothing about SB-100 being repealed. The Chevy Green set up was an agreement between SEMA and the CARB people and it is supposed to pass California emissions, but I dont know of anyone who has actually tried it.

Edit: This link may help understand what is going on more than just posting about it.

http://superchevy.automotive.com/120...lem/index.html

Ron

As Ron said, the LS3 E-Rod motor was announced at the SEMA show

SEMA and California Agencies Solve Titling Dilemma

It's my understanding that the LS3 is 50 State legal and comes with a computer, Cats, etc. to pass all smog requirements. My guess is that Ford Motorsports will offer a similar solution at some point in the future.

I haven't heard anything about SB100 being repealed.

Gunner · #7 (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 09:11 AM

GM's sales weens would LIKE to think that smog exemptions would be repealed so that their kit motor is the only option. Time to put the cork back in the bottle, guys.

That said, I don't know how many more years of relative freedom we have on this point. We may be a lot closer to the tough Australian process in ten years.

Or not. Hard to convince anyone that a few hundred limited-mileage cars a year are going to cause more of a problem than the millions of older cars already there.

RedBarchetta · #8 (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 09:45 AM

Read the lyrics to my favorite song (see user ID). 'Nuff said...we are heading there. Rush (well, Neil Peart) was 30 years ahead of everyone else.

-Dean

Gunner · #9 (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 10:09 AM

Thirty years ago, Dean, we were on the verge of losing real cars forever - the era of the Mustang II, the 160HP Vette, the Chevy Monza Sport... it wasn't prescience, it was looking doom in the face.

I think we have a better future now that they've learned to build very low emission engines with no power compromise. Ten years from now 1-litre 140HP cars might be the norm, but we won't be in the horrible state we were in the mid-70s. (Police Interceptor 460: 172HP, 285 FPT... auuughhh!)

Jerry Clayton · #10 (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 10:19 AM

Monza sport--was a real car---mine ran mid 7s at 180mph

Gunner · #11 (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton

Monza sport--was a real car---mine ran mid 7s at 180mph

I'm talking about these paint-and-tape horrors, and you know it:

*shudder*

rodneym · #12 (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 10:51 AM

I wouldn't doubt if there was an effort to repeal SB-100.
The only thing that seems to be slowing down AB-32 is the economy.
rodneym

rodneym · #13 (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 11:25 AM

BTW, I believe Morgester said in a previous thread that he doesn't see the 500 numbers of SB-100 being being added to, or subtracted. I believe he implied that it will stand as is, and make the best of it.
But would we would be grandfathered in????
Opinions?

Ron61 · #14 (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rodneym

BTW, I believe Morgester said in a previous thread that he doesn't see the 500 numbers of SB-100 being being added to, or subtracted. I believe he implied that it will stand as is, and make the best of it.
But would we would be grandfathered in????
Opinions?

If SB-100 isn't changed than you wouldn't need to be Grandfathered in. The thing that many tried to do was get that ridiculous 500 number increased. If they do repeal it, they have to either grandfather in the vehicles that have it or make arrangements to register them legally another way that keeps them smog exempt. With this state going broke and the money they take in on the SPCNS cars, I really don't see them doing away with SB-100any time soon.

Ron

RedBarchetta · #15 (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron61

With this state going broke and the money they take in on the SPCNS cars, I really don't see them doing away with SB-100any time soon.

Ron

Unfortunately the tree huggers couldn't balance their checkbook if their lives depended on it.

I don't worry about it at the moment...I just drive it like I stole it.

Ron61 · #16 (**permalink**) 02-10-2010, 12:28 PM

Well I have mine and I am hanging onto it. At least they can't pull the title of the 69. And I am not to worried about the Coupe either.

Ron

jmimac351 · #17 (**permalink**) 02-11-2010, 06:01 PM

Why do people live in California? Is it because you were born there and it's all you've ever known? You like paying confiscatory taxes? You like living surrounded by freaks? Cruising down the PCH can't be enough to offset all of the other hassles, can it?

I'd rather eat glass.

Randy Rosenberg · #18 (**permalink**) 02-11-2010, 07:08 PM

If you have to ask, then you don't understand...

jmimac351 · #19 (**permalink**) 02-11-2010, 07:53 PM

During college I worked at the Riviera Golf Club in Pacific Palisades for a month. I "get it" but you're right, I don't "understand" it...

Certain states / people are willing to put up with certain things I suppose. It's interesting that this is being discussed as something that could happen and the assumed context appears to be there is nothing the people can do about it.

All our "60% approval rating" Governor had to do was support the "stimulus" and now he is being bounced out on his rear end in the GOP primary for US Senate.

Some things are unacceptable to some people and they do something about it.

Got the Bug · #20 (**permalink**) 02-11-2010, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jmimac351

All our "60% approval rating" Governor had to do was support the "stimulus" and now he is being bounced out on his rear end in the GOP primary for US Senate.

Some things are unacceptable to some people and they do something about it.

Interesting choice of words, considering some of the reports.

Arnold has done everything in his power to dig California out of its hole, considering what he inherited...and he's not a "gurly man."