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06-13-2010, 11:32 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: St. Lucia, West Indies,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC 383 stroker
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Lol! Let's just agree that we are on entirely different wavelengths
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Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
I never said Cobras are safer than SUVs.
You said something about making your passengers feel safe by driving them in your SUV.
I was just saying that SUVs are apparently not as safe as many people believe them to be. I based that on something I read about teen deaths in SUVs. I don't remember where I read that, but if you google for that sort of thing, you should come up with a bunch of opinions on whether or not SUVs are safe or not.
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06-14-2010, 12:13 AM
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I like this seat from Cobra Seats. Removable headrest. if the fit is right, I think I will order a set.
www.cobraseats.com/classic_cs.htm
Another option here from Corbeau http://www.corbeau.com/products/fixe...lassic_bucket/
EDIT: Here are a couple of pics of the Cobra Classics ("Cobra" is the company name and has nothing to do with our cars!). I will take some measurements of my cockpit and the factory seats today to see if there will be any fitment issues. I don't want the seatback itself - without headrest - to protrude above the height of the rear cowl.
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06-14-2010, 09:49 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Anchorage,
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Padded rollbar
Buzz, the Cobra Classic seat with removable headrest looks like a very good option.
I do agree that padded roll bars are not as clean looking as bare tubing.
However, to my eyes, the only thing uglier than a padded rollbar (or two) is the caved in skull of your wife/girlfriend/child/relative/neighbor/friend, or yourself. Brain damage is UGLY.
Some things are worse than death for the injured person and the family.
I think a removable padded headrest/rollbar cover would be an ideal solution if someone could make one that looks good and can be mounted and removed easily and quickly. Perhaps something that slips down over the roll bar and fastened with quick pins? Make it look like the modern race seats with side impact wings even.
I am sure the Kirkham's could design something that looks excellent, works as intended, and would be wanted by many.
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06-14-2010, 12:26 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance, Roush 402R
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That sounds like a business challenge the Kirkhams might tackle........
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06-14-2010, 04:00 PM
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James, I agree 100% that a padded roll bar is far safer than bare steel. Temporary, removable padding or head restraints appeal to me because safety trumps aesthetics while the car is in motion. Aesthetics and looks only come into play when the car is parked.
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06-14-2010, 04:20 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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Following that line of thinking...everybody park their Cobras!
These have to be in the top ten most dangerous rides...along with HummVees in Iraq, a FedEx delivery van on the Bolivian road in the Andes, driving a sedan in Ciudad Juarez with "Policia" on the side, etc.
In the past month, I've seen threads about cupholders, electric trunk releases and now this...with arguments flowing from needing two rollbars to it's safer to have none to padding them enough to look like frost protection for outdoor water lines.
Christ Almighty, I got 40 gallons of gas sloshing around behind my ass...it'll be over quickly if I get hit back there. The steering column will drive through to my heart even faster if I hit something in the front. Hell, the Lucas switches will shoot from the dash and take out an eye. Look at the damn things...the front pusher fans will puree your hands, the pipes will burn your legs, the quickjacks leave scars on your shins and foreheads, every time I shift to second, my elbow hits the damn threaded bolt holding my battery, you get sun stroke driving these damn bare naked ladies in the summer, or frozen butt cracks in the cold rain.
But I digress...
Just get a flatbed trailer and tow it around to show folks...or, even better, just ride in it on the trailer and have the wife drive the tow truck. Then you can have that coffee in your cupholder, turn on the radio and AC, and pop that trunk lid for the bellman without getting out.
...but, that's just me. Y'all have the assolute right to make your Cobra be what you want it to be.
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06-14-2010, 04:27 PM
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....but some of us want to preserve what few brains we have left!
Seriously, I think a minimal amount of high density padding will go a long way to keeping the pinkish grey stuff inside the skull cavity - where it belongs.
Having a moderate rear end collision result in brain damage is not my idea of a fun day. Particularly when for a couple of bucks and a few minutes of time the situation can be improved 100%.
Think of it like wearing leathers or a helmet while riding a motorcycle.
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06-14-2010, 04:30 PM
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Don't forget the part about making the kids drive the SUV! I was gonna take it easy this evening but after reading that, I feel like going for a drive!
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06-14-2010, 04:38 PM
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I wouldn't want to wear leathers or a helmet, so I got this instead of a motorcycle, which is inherently dangerous no matter what you wear.
Look how dangerous your polished tin can was...blinded old people and stuff.
Besides, I have my rollbar perfectly designed so that my head is slightly higher anyway...so my neck will snap way before my brains get scrambled.
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06-14-2010, 04:40 PM
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...and by the way...padding the crossbar makes some sense to me and is subtle (asspecially black rubber on a black rollbar. I just can't get behind wrapping the whole damn hoop.
...but again, to each his own.
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06-14-2010, 04:59 PM
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I like my CHROME roll bar, I'll just have to chance it without padding, kind of like I do when I ride the motorcycle.
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06-14-2010, 05:46 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Santa Rosa Valley,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham KMP500 LeMans- Roush 451 Shelby block; KMP Flip-top with cammer: KMP 289 Bronze under construction.
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Jamo, you are too funny! I own a Kirkham and a Ferrari 360 Modena that cost about the same. If some on this tread are so concerned with safety, DON’T DRIVE A COBRA. My profession is managing people with brain and spine injuries. Even the smallest crash will cause injuries. If you think about the 100 things that can go wrong while driving a plastic or tin can cobra, you will have a problem. I feel somewhat safer in the Modena then the Cobra. However, my Carrera S4 at 180mph is a E ticket ride with AC, power steering and a cup holder. Bottom line, don’t crash. Injuries are inevitable. PS make sure your health insurance policies are current. Peace, Darren
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06-14-2010, 05:56 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Covington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance # 532, 466 BB, 560HP
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A safe Cobra is about as real as an honest politican.
Go ahead, warp an aluminum baseball bat with some foam and then let a friend wack you in the head with it. Just make sure your will is up to date, as you will be just as dead.
I made a comment once that these things are just slightly safer than a motorcycle. After thinking about it some more (I started riding Harleys back in 77 long before they were popular) think they may be slightly more dangerous in some situations. At least with a bike you can sometime lay them down to avoid being injured more. Such as a deer running out in front of you. With the Cobra, if you cannot avoid the furry bastard, he is probably going to come through the windshield and join you.
Oh well, let the bullsh!t continue.
And me? One roll bar, not padded please.
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06-14-2010, 06:12 PM
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Speaking of deers...
I took one out about a week ago driving from Beale AFB to Grass Valley at night. It barely registered through the uber panzer's steering wheel, but crushed the passenger side front grill/fender/asspensive light pods. Through it all, the star still stood tall on the crumpled hood. That's what a crush zone does.
Da wifey barely looked up from her damn bubble-wrap game on her iphone.
Me thinks the Cobra would've fared a bit differently.
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06-14-2010, 06:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by N2VENOM
Jamo, you are too funny! I own a Kirkham and a Ferrari 360 Modena that cost about the same. If some on this tread are so concerned with safety, DON’T DRIVE A COBRA. My profession is managing people with brain and spine injuries. Even the smallest crash will cause injuries. If you think about the 100 things that can go wrong while driving a plastic or tin can cobra, you will have a problem. I feel somewhat safer in the Modena then the Cobra. However, my Carrera S4 at 180mph is a E ticket ride with AC, power steering and a cup holder. Bottom line, don’t crash. Injuries are inevitable. PS make sure your health insurance policies are current. Peace, Darren
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So business is good, eh?
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06-14-2010, 10:22 PM
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Buzz, I looked at those seats. Sube Sports in Hunnington Beach CA, 714-847-1501, carries them. They will fit in most cars, the problem is that unless your butt is less than 12 inches wide you won't fit, plus the back is not that wide. Look at the Classic RS from Sube, It's a little wider. I wish someone would make a seat with a headrest that will work in the cobra. The Aussies have them.
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06-15-2010, 11:21 AM
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Don't forget to protect your elbows in a crash!
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06-15-2010, 12:06 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: contemporary(2) one with 427 sohc and one with 427 center oiler
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After reading about the death of two people that died from head injuries in a cobra, I decided to install shoulder harnesses and head protection. I know it may offend purists,but I value my life more then the originality of the car.
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06-15-2010, 12:23 PM
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06-15-2010, 12:31 PM
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