Shelby CSX price increase!

[RichardCSX6000]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

CSX6000 say's,


Judge Walsh, trademark court, disagree's, would you like to appeal? In his written opinion, he found no distinctive difference between an FFR or a Shelby, both being "replica's". Inferring that all other replica manufacturers have the same status as well, that of "replica".

He did not address the value or workmanship of either marque, FFR, Shelby or any other replica on the market. He only addressed the legal status.

Is a Shelby more desireable than other replica's offered on the market because of it's brand name alone? That would be a valid assumption. It carries a terrific brand name and has a closer connection to history than other replica's. It often carries the highest respect within the market place. Market prices support the idea that a Shelby retains a higher re-sale value than other replica's on the market. The details of any given build could be argued and compared, but when the smoke has cleared they ALL have one thing in common, they are ALL replica's.

"Kit" cars essentially, all though the preferred term is "roller" in the case of a Shelby and other similiar builds. But somebody OTHER THAN the manufacturer (in any case), by Federal law, must complete the car. As it is "incomplete" when it leaves the factory, it begs the question, what is it? Roller? Kit? Replica? Shelby prefer's the word "Continuation", generally accepted by the masses, so perhaps it is becoming or has become valid? It's tricky though, as it can lead to confusion and increases the possibility of fraud, now and into the future. To suggest that it is a "real" Cobra because Shelby built it, crosses the line, in my opinion, from carefully hyped advertising term's to out right fraud.

The key being Shelby does not, cannot by Federal law, specify the end product details. Could be a Roush motor, small or big block, and a myriad of other details.

"Continuation" should be considered synonymous with the term replica, in Judge Walsh's opinion.

With all due respect....I doubt the good Judge is really much of a Shelby expert, other than interpreting law verbage. I would much prefer to see what the real expert has to say...which follows.


"There's an exception when it comes to Jimmy Price and Lance Stander. Superformance International makes replica Cobras in South Africa and calls the two-seat roadster they build the MKIII. It's not a true Shelby, but I've endorsed and licensed the car for being as close to correct and well-built as possible."


- Carroll Shelby (Octane, Oct. 2006)

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by RichardCSX6000

"There's an exception when it comes to Jimmy Price and Lance Stander. Superformance International makes replica Cobras in South Africa and calls the two-seat roadster they build the MKIII. It's not a true Shelby, but I've endorsed and licensed the car for being as close to correct and well-built as possible."


- Carroll Shelby (Octane, Oct. 2006)

So using your example, why does he not also endorse ERA, and Kirkham as "being as close to correct and well-built as possible."

Oh, wait, I know why, because he is not getting paid to do so .


Yet, he still, at times, uses Kirkham to build chassis for his own continuation series offerings.

Finally, seeing that he is a "paid spokesman" for SPF, don't you think that he is no longer considered "subjective and fair" on the matter. Perhaps if he was not being paid, then his "expert testimony" would not be subject to such criticism.


Bill S.

[patrickt]

Bill, of course, sees the point that I was crawling (painfully slowly, I might add) to last night. Mr. Shelby can make any newly built car that bears a passing resemblance to the original cars of the 60's a "true, real, Shelby Cobra" just by saying it's so and having a relationship, albeit nothing more than financial, with the builders. That's all it takes -- and really, that's all you're getting. That, and a nicely built replica as well. Uhhh, usually nicely built, that is.

[ERA Chas]

Originally Posted by RichardCSX6000

...Jimmy Price and Lance Stander. Superformance International makes replica Cobras in South Africa and calls the two-seat roadster they build the MKIII. It's not a true Shelby, but I've endorsed and licensed the car for being as close to correct and well-built as possible."
- Carroll Shelby (Octane, Oct. 2006)

What a crock that is-that title belongs only to the Kirkham. Statements like this are the reason he has zero credibility.
He will proclaim anything that makes him a bigger buck and his disciples will parrot that as gospel to the sheep.
It's all just BS.

[A-Snake]