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01-02-2011, 06:41 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Here's a Video of Tin-man's Engine
Tin-man's engine vid is available by clicking Tin-man Video |
01-02-2011, 06:46 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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Thanks for helping me with this Patrickt
you are without a doubt one fine upstanding gent for doing this. I owe you, big time.
With the greatest of respect, John, AKA, tin-man
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01-02-2011, 07:15 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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I sent you a PM please open it. John, AKA, tin-man:
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01-05-2011, 10:25 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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I must backtrack on my comments about Roush
[quote=tin-man;1099915]
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Nope, can't do that since the money has long gone by now.
Boy, is that the truth, I checked my bank records on the money transfer to Roush and they received the final payment for the engine-tranny combo on August 31, 2010, and four months on I am still waiting for two parts to complete the assemby and finish the install. Just don't seem right, even after several calls from Eric of Voss Performance to Roush and several emails from me to Mark at the Roush engine build facility. I am fearful this has all the makings of a really bad omen given the original build time for the engine was extended by four months due to vendor issues with some of the part tolerances.
Being a manufacturing guy I can understand how these tolerances issues can surface, but to have missed out packing and sending the two spacer plates that are required for the engine-tranny hook-up is arguably the result of some serious infrastructure check-off protocols not being applied during the final packing and shipping stages of the entire sales transaction.
Kinda makes me wonder what else is missing, huh? that said, I guess I can be forgiving when I drive the Cobra and the engine performs well, but bein' out of pocket US$50+large and not being able to even start the engine is causing me a lot of "angst" and I am desperatly trying to keep the notion of a **** storm of biblical proportions from brewing, but its hard knowing I placed the order with Roush in January of 2010 and the transaction has yet to close, one year later.
I guess the term Caveat Emptor is appropriate for all you newbies who are considering getting a Roush engine and I am really sorry to have to say that, but my experience compels me to pass on the advice. 
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Seems that Roush is not at fault in this matter of Voss Performance not having the spacers. The spacers were shipped from Roush in November but got missplaced at Voss. Erick's got a lot of splainin' to do. In any event I now know its just a matter of time before I get my completed ride. Hooooray. tin-man
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01-06-2011, 06:23 AM
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Well, that's progress, I guess. So what's the ETA for actually having your butt in the seat?  |
01-06-2011, 10:21 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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Yep, but there is a back story to this......
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Well, that's progress, I guess. So what's the ETA for actually having your butt in the seat? |
I am delighted that the spacers have found a home, seems that they did arrive at Voss Performance as stated but only on December 22, and in another crate engine from Roush, so dear readers it would seem our friends at Roush were indeed the causal effect behind the delay. The parts were not lost at Erick's place and Erick was kind enough to splain' this to me so I have rectified my comments accordingly. That said I do not have a firm date yet when the ride will be ready, I am guessing sometime in early February. I'll post more build picture over this weekend. Cheers, John AKA, tin-man
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01-06-2011, 11:06 PM
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Glad it all worked out and hope you get in the seat soon. Erick did my coupe build three years ago and he is the only one who I let touch my car. Just picked it up tonight with new suspension and new front brakes. I track my car often now and would not trust my car or my life to anyone else. Good luck with the rest of the build!
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01-07-2011, 08:13 AM
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Patrick, Thanks for getting the vid up!
Tin, great vid, looks like a Monster!
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01-07-2011, 08:56 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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Yep, Patrickt did fine job...............
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Patrick, Thanks for getting the vid up!
Tin, great vid, looks like a Monster!
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Thanks, only issue is the monster, aka Beast of Roushwerks and his torque buddy, once transformed into one homogenious mass of power will then get shoved into that fine little lady Gazelle from South Africa and seein' that everyone calls their Cobra a "she" has me stuck for a name at the moment, but I am guessing she will be one hellova mean B**** with an attitude that decidedly demands the greatest of respect and will not hesitate to engage me in a smackdown contest if I even think of getting "frisky" with my foot on one of her hot buttons. Sorta reminds me of some of the ladies I've met in my lifetime, but that's another story for another time.   John, AKA, tin-man
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01-15-2011, 10:35 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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Engines finally in, well sort of......
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01-15-2011, 11:01 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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Heres the pics of the install...
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01-16-2011, 08:33 AM
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WTF? Pulling an engine back out because the starter motor doesn't match up with the holes? That doesn't make sense. It can be tricky to get to one of the bolts with the primaries on, in fact I think we went over that ad nauseam in my lame, but lengthy and mildly entertaining, thread on lockwashers this past summer. But pulling the engine back out because the starter's bolt configuration doesn't match up to the block and bellhousing?!? Someone will have to explain that one to me....
EDIT -- I remembered you're getting an auto trans in that thing, maybe that's it.... Still seems strange to me, though.
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01-16-2011, 10:28 AM
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Do I see power steering and air conditioning on that engine?
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01-16-2011, 11:00 AM
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Ultra cool, thanks for sharing!!!
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01-16-2011, 05:54 PM
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I spot 5 too many of those little wheelie thingy majiggers on that belt
I think tin-man has every available option on the motor and roller. 
Tin Man, when your done, post a little video of that beast so we all can see!
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01-16-2011, 08:05 PM
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No sir.....
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I spot 5 too many of those little wheelie thingy majiggers on that belt
I think tin-man has every available option on the motor and roller.
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just power steering and power breaks, no aircon, who needs aircon in Arizona? All those thingies are to sort out the tension in the belts.  I hear ya on the vid, when its done and that's a big when, I will surely do that. Cheers, tin-man
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01-16-2011, 08:15 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF2984 MK111, Roush 511 IR FE 8 Stack, Dynoed: [flywheel] 572HP at 6000 , 556# Torque at 4700, Bowler 4R70W Auto Transmision. Tires: Mickey T's S/R 26.0x10.0x15.0 F ,26.0x12.0x15.0 R Color, Bleck, because they told me it was Bleck, at the factory.
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Patrickt, I had the same thots, but.....
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WTF? Pulling an engine back out because the starter motor doesn't match up with the holes? That doesn't make sense. It can be tricky to get to one of the bolts with the primaries on, in fact I think we went over that ad nauseam in my lame, but lengthy and mildly entertaining, thread on lockwashers this past summer. But pulling the engine back out because the starter's bolt configuration doesn't match up to the block and bellhousing?!? Someone will have to explain that one to me....
EDIT -- I remembered you're getting an auto trans in that thing, maybe that's it.... Still seems strange to me, though. |
I understand Bowler supplied a plate for a standard Ford FE starter motor bolt hole pattern, but the truck starter motor BHP that we are using was off sufficiently that both Roush and Bowler agreed to the change. While this is another timeline set back I am of the opinion that its not entirely uncommon to yank the engine once installed since all the best laid plans don't always work. THat said whatever happened to the notion to get it right the first time ???? John AKA, tin-man 
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01-16-2011, 08:23 PM
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Do I see power steering and air conditioning on that engine?
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Nope, just power breaks, no aircon. got enough loot into this beast so far and didn't think I needed aircon. John, AKA, tin-man
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01-16-2011, 08:32 PM
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I've heard some interesting comments regarding a power steering upgrade on SPF's....
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01-16-2011, 09:12 PM
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OK I give up..............
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do tell, don't leave everyone in a pregnant silence. I tried the none power steering and just about wrenched my shoulder trying to turn into a parking bay at Superformance in Irvine. Seems like a reasonable addition?? So lay it on us. tin-man
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