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11-10-2010, 06:48 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Driftwood,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Cobra, 427 side oiler
Posts: 1,850
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Send me one of dem der Cammers. We'll work out da price and fitment later.
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11-10-2010, 07:43 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Yep, I got a PM about the Cammer(s).
Chas, at 530 lbs more than me, what's a few extra lbs added by my aluminum Trigo wheels, which you kindly would take in trade.
I would save, like, like, like, 10 lbs per wheel and they would get me under 2,100 lbs. PUH-LEEEZE.
Patrick's your best buddy? That just doesn't seem right.
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11-10-2010, 07:59 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Chas, at 530 lbs more than me,...
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That's cold Knockers...
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11-10-2010, 08:34 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Scottsdale,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Black CSX 4910, Roush 511 8 stack
Posts: 1,206
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In all seriousness(as much as this group can muster anyway) any idea the true weight of a 'glass CSX empty? I have heard many diffrent weight but I am curious to know the actual weight.
Ron
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11-10-2010, 09:08 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by csx4910
In all seriousness(as much as this group can muster anyway) any idea the true weight of a 'glass CSX empty? I have heard many diffrent weight but I am curious to know the actual weight.
Ron
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Ron, in reading OLD threads here, I believe an early CSX4000 with all the aluminum bits (block, heads, intake, water pump, rear end, etc.) is/was about 150 +/- lbs more than a Kirkham or approximately 2,300 lbs, but you should definitely get your car weighed and give us an accurate figure since things change over time.
With a Quicktime bellhousing and the usual aluminum bits, my Kirkham weighed in at 2,128 lbs, but I need to find some magnesium Halibrand wheels.
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11-10-2010, 10:39 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Redwood City,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427S/C #542. Keith Craft 427/482 Pond Block
Posts: 11
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Rod,
I had my #542 weighed...came in a 2068 lbs with a quarter tank of fuel. I was bit surprised and had it double checked, but accurate. Did so when adjusting suspension for my weight, etc.
As engine thread, Keith Craft has been terrific. They actually pick up the phone and talk to you...always a good start in my book.
Al
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11-10-2010, 11:02 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vnms65
I had my #542 weighed...came in a 2068 lbs with a quarter tank of fuel. I was bit surprised and had it double checked, but accurate. Did so when adjusting suspension for my weight, etc.
Al
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What? Exactly 50 lbs less? No way!
I'm sure it's all related to the meatier Shelby block as contrasted to the Pond block. (just kidding, take it easy).
Note to self: Must find 50 lbs to lose. On the car. Not me.
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11-10-2010, 11:10 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Redwood City,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427S/C #542. Keith Craft 427/482 Pond Block
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Ha! So, how is that Shelby support group coming along? Persistent manifestations of insecurity! ;-)
This point forward, I drive with an 1/8th tank....a few more petrol stops but another 18lbs off the dial!
Cheers!
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11-11-2010, 04:53 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bethesda,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 6022, navy blue, period correct 427 SO
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My glass CSX is a portly 2,600 lbs with iron block and heads and about 15 gal of gas.
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11-11-2010, 05:22 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcdoug
My glass CSX is a portly 2,600 lbs with iron block and heads and about 15 gal of gas.
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It's a well known fact that the lighter the car the more it requires constant retorquing of the bolts due to a lack of low-density rigidity.
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11-11-2010, 05:24 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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And whatever happened to that CSX "manual" that was being written by someone on this board and that I correctly predicted would die on the vine just like it has umpteen times before....
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11-11-2010, 05:28 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Albuquerque, N.M.,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 2007 BDR FR Boss 302
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The NIB 427 side oiler blocks are new warrantee blocks from the early 1970's from what I can tell so far. I have 1 of the cammer motors in a mudd bogger for sale on Craigs list. in a 1970's ford P.U. called Rat Poison. Will be wants $30,000 for the complete veh incl the rear large swamp tires. Also have used 427 std & side oiler blocks, 428 CJ blocks, medium & High Riser heads, forged cranks, Alumn 4V, dual quad & tripower intakes, etc. My friend was a real Ford racing nut. Helping him out before he died and working around all those 427 motors is what got me interested in a Cobra again. Once I get all the stuff sorted out I'll most likely post the items in the for sale forum here. Any questions, contact me. The other Bob Q.
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11-11-2010, 05:53 AM
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Location: Bethesda,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 6022, navy blue, period correct 427 SO
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Originally Posted by BBQCYCLEWERKES
Once I get all the stuff sorted out I'll most likely post the items in the for sale forum here.
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That would be great. That way we can continue to tweak RodKnock about his SOHC motor.
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11-11-2010, 06:50 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BBQCYCLEWERKES
I have 1 of the cammer motors in a mudd bogger for sale on Craigs list. in a 1970's ford P.U. called Rat Poison. Will be wants $30,000 for the complete veh incl the rear large swamp tires.
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Hmmm, I could swap the Cammer and the mudd bogger tires for my 482 and Yokohama's and call my Cobra "Snake Poison."
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11-11-2010, 06:53 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Albuquerque, N.M.,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 2007 BDR FR Boss 302
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcdoug
That would be great. That way we can continue to tweak RodKnock about his SOHC motor.
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Does RodKnock have a Ford SOHC motor or one of those Dove or other brand SOHC? From what I can determine the orig Ford SOHC is more valueable and collectable. Is that correct? B.Q.
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11-11-2010, 08:02 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Bethesda,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 6022, navy blue, period correct 427 SO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BBQCYCLEWERKES
Does RodKnock have a Ford SOHC motor or one of those Dove or other brand SOHC? From what I can determine the orig Ford SOHC is more valueable and collectable. Is that correct? B.Q.
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RodKnock has dreams of having any sort of SOHC motor, the more alloy the better. But as of yet, he is still unwilling to stroke the check to make his dream into reality.
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11-11-2010, 08:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcdoug
RodKnock has dreams of having any sort of SOHC motor, the more alloy the better. But as of yet, he is still unwilling to stroke the check to make is dream into reality.
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Maybe he also has a 'light weight' checkbook?
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11-11-2010, 08:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcdoug
RodKnock has dreams of having any sort of SOHC motor, the more alloy the better. But as of yet, he is still unwilling to stroke the check to make is dream into reality.
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I can understand that completely. This is alot of money for a motor, but from what I understand Ford only made about 750 of these motors. They were outlawed the 1st time they went on a Nascar track for hotlaps. I can see why, as the stock H.P. rating was 616 if I remember out of the box. Bob Q
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11-11-2010, 08:43 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
Posts: 5,530
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dcdoug
My glass CSX is a portly 2,600 lbs with iron block and heads and about 15 gal of gas.
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I had to get CSX4005LA weighed for my title/plates. It was 2600 as well. This is a carbon fiber roller but the iron in Roush 427IR in the front adds up.
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11-11-2010, 08:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twobjshelbys
... but the iron in Roush 427IR in the front adds up.
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That's only about 80lbs more than an all aluminum Dart.
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