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11-24-2010, 08:48 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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I'll say!
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Originally Posted by Paul F
Grumpy old men.....
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I'm with you, Paul. That Chas needs to get a life....
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11-24-2010, 08:57 AM
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Location: Bartlett,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Everett-Morrison LS1
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Sooooo Patrick
what kind of locknuts are on your engine mounts? or bell housing????
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11-24-2010, 08:58 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton
Sooooo Patrick
what kind of locknuts are on your engine mounts? or bell housing????
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None, on either.
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11-24-2010, 09:11 AM
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you need to correct the washers on the bolts in your pressure plate and also why aren't you using the dowel pins for where the pp joins the flywheel??
And your quick jacks
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11-24-2010, 09:17 AM
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Location: Hillsboro,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Scratch built CSX style frame, Carbon fiber body, 393 Stroker, T-bird IRS, T5
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Okay, so what is everyone using is places where you use a bolt threaded into a threaded hub where obviously a lock nut can't be used? A belleville washer?
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11-24-2010, 09:19 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton
you need to correct the washers on the bolts in your pressure plate and also why aren't you using the dowel pins for where the pp joins the flywheel??
And your quick jacks
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My overpriced Centerforce aluminum flywheel had no dowels -- loctited ARP shouldered bolts though. I do use the split lock washers on the starter motor and, as you can see from the photo, I have to retighten them ever few months.
Last edited by patrickt; 10-25-2016 at 08:51 AM..
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11-24-2010, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
I'm with you, Paul. That Chas needs to get a life....
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Eleven thousand eight hundred and ninety five posts and I need to get a life?
So Paul, we relics should be eternally grateful that our boy here relentlessly educates whippersnappers like you?
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11-24-2010, 09:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton
And your quick jacks
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Surely you're not suggesting that the QJ nuts should go inward?
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11-24-2010, 10:53 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Two pages so far on lock washers?
What is this world coming to?
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11-24-2010, 11:07 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 427 S/C, Twin Paxton 511 FE
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Look, let's just safety wire it, spot weld the lock washer under a nylon locking nut, JB Weld a small square of mirror on it and place an energy efficient spotlight on it. Simple.
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11-24-2010, 11:14 AM
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This thread needs some "Threadlocker," and I ain't talking the stuff in the red tube.
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11-24-2010, 11:27 AM
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Last edited by rodneym; 11-24-2010 at 11:35 AM..
Reason: my internal spell check is much slower than my fingers
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11-24-2010, 12:22 PM
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Try your local hardware shops for a product called 'Nordlock', two piece 'ramped' & 'serrated' washer, only good for RH threads, works great on headers, manifolds, bell housings. Needs a couple of rechecks when used in alloy applications as serrations tend to 'bite' into the softer alloy.... might be just what you need on those 'FE' intakes to keep the bolt clamp pressure up.
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11-24-2010, 12:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jac Mac
Try your local hardware shops for a product called 'Nordlock', two piece 'ramped' & 'serrated' washer, only good for RH threads, works great on headers, manifolds, bell housings.
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Thanks Jac for something constructive out of this.
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11-24-2010, 12:44 PM
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I'm betting I'll get slammed for this, but is this option?
http://www.stage8.com/
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11-24-2010, 12:47 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
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I've never used them -- but the guys on the PowerBlock, Stacey David's shows, Truck U, etc., speak highly of them. But, they could be paid to do that, I don't know.
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11-24-2010, 01:31 PM
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Lock Washers are useless!
Found this information
Quote US Navy:
Naval Ships' Technical Manual, Chapter 75:
"Although lockwashers may be encountered, using the flat washers with selflocking nuts, self-locking fasteners, self-locking inserts, or thread sealants such as MIL-S-22473 anaerobic compounds is preferable.
A flat washer is used for many purposes, some proper and some not. The two most common proper purposes are:
1. To distribute the pressure of the nut or bolt evenly over the part being secured, reducing the chance of damage thereto, and
2. To provide a smooth surface for the nut or bolt to bear on, making it less likely to loosen as a result of an uneven fastening surface.
Bottom line use flatwashers and if not sure or the part is inaccessible use the correct thread lock and as mentioned Loctite Blue or medium strength is generally sufficient for general automotive applications, if you want to get it apart. For the newcomer Dont use Loctite 262 on your knock off wheel threads or any thread lock for that matter as the larger the thread the worse the problem can become to undo!
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The 1960's rocked!
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11-24-2010, 01:57 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: LA Exotics
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
Eleven thousand eight hundred and ninety five posts and I need to get a life?
So Paul, we relics should be eternally grateful that our boy here relentlessly educates whippersnappers like you?
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Chas,
You can do as you like with Patrick. He doesn't seem to mind.
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11-24-2010, 02:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul F
You can do as you like with Patrick. He doesn't seem to mind.
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Patrick wears his heart on his sleeve. The cruel, caustic commentaries by Chas cuts him to the quick.
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11-24-2010, 02:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul F
Chas,
You can do as you like with Patrick. He doesn't seem to mind.
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Sigh.... You are correct-it only glorifies him more.
But every hamlet needs it's Village Idiot. (Wish we had a VI smiley guy).
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