Which original Cobra was used to splash your replica?

[aurora cobra]

This car used a 260 cobra number #2013 to make there molds.

[SoTxButler]

Not trying to hijack this thread, but want to clear up the matter of the "Shelby tooling".

I believe I am responsible for the misinformation. I said at one time that Ron "had bought the Shelby tooling". I got in a lot of trouble with Jamo for that and rightly so.

What really happened is that Ron bought most everything in Shelby's shop (obviously no tooling for the bodies or frames), consisting of lots of tools, machines, materials, etc.

As for the Arntz stuff, he ended up with frames and stuff like bodies, etc. when Arntz went out of business and then started building Butlers. As most people know, he built the frames for Arntz.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by SunDude

Shelby Autos: splashed CSX3178 for their fiberglass continuation series cars (CSX4000/6000s)

So I went to look to see what my car's daddy looked like.



Pretty amazing transformation.

[kris-kincaid]

Shelby used CSX3057

Shelby Autos: splashed CSX3178 for their fiberglass continuation series cars (CSX4000/6000s)

[SunDude]

hmm, seems to me that this thread is being hijacked by the Great Train Robbers...

...any chance we can return to the original topic now...?

[Clayboy]

Has anyone found any information on the origins of the Superformance body yet?
Bob

[SunDude]

Originally Posted by kris-kincaid

Shelby used CSX3057

Really? So what you're saying is that Shelby Autos used a McClusky-built "completion Cobra" as the basis for its CSX4000-series...?

[392cobra]

I read that they combined the scans of a FFR and a Street Beast for the Superformance

[kris-kincaid]

McCluskey built the chassis, Kimmins did the body, then Shelby American built the rest of the car. So, they used a Shelby-built "completion Cobra" as the basis for its CSX4000-series. CSX3057 was built out of order from the rest, and it's because it sat around the building unbuilt while they splashed it.

Originally Posted by SunDude

Really? So what you're saying is that Shelby Autos used a McClusky-built "completion Cobra" as the basis for its CSX4000-series...?

[ACademic]

Originally Posted by 392cobra

I read that they combined the scans of a FFR and a Street Beast for the Superformance

Today's sarcastic humor brought to you by two bouncing boobs.

If my fading memory serves me correctly, most of the proportions on a Superformance were measured from an original (just not splashed in total).

[PSB]

I have no idea which car Integrity (now Hunter) splashed their body from, but it must have been a wide-hipped street car, as there are no flares on the rear fenders.

Pete

[rustyBob]

SunDude i sent you a pm.....

[redmt]

Originally Posted by rustyBob

SunDude i sent you a pm.....

Good morning Bob

[rustyBob]

Hey John...

[SunDude]

Originally Posted by Pman1961

How about Superformance?

I've PMed GP1482, who works for Superformance LLC in Irvine CA, to see if he can let us know.

As a Superformance owner myself, I'd love to know the answer too.

[kris-kincaid]

SunDude, are you going to edit your initial post to reflect accurate information?

[RallySnake]

SunDude,

This is one of the best pieces of information I have seen on the forum. Like most things in life, it may not be perfect. But, I really enjoyed learning something about the actual car that my Arntz replicates.

Thank you very much,
RS

[Mike_I]

It was rumored that the Midstates body was the same as the contemporary. They sure look the same to me. Don't know if that means it was splashed from 3045 and/or the contemporary copy?

Also, didn't FFR buy contemporary's mold and use it for the MKiV? If so, the MKiV would be from 3045.

[SunDude]

Originally Posted by kris-kincaid

SunDude, are you going to edit your initial post to reflect accurate information?

You may be right, but I can't seem to find anything to verify your information as accurate.

Let me start by noting that Computerworks (Ron) has identified CSX3178 -- a car that Carroll Shelby has owned since new -- as being the basis for the CSX4000-series cars from HST Automotive.

But when you think about it, there is no easy answer to the question, "which CSX was used as the basis for the Shelby American continuation cars?", as the company offers several different models and has used several different suppliers.

As Kirkham supplies the ally-bodied continuation cars, isn't it safe to say that those cars are also based on CSX3104? But what about the CSX1000 cars from AC Cars in the Lubinsky era, or the CSX7000 and CSX8000 cars? And did they use different cars for the fibreglass vs aluminum bodied versions?

So I checked the SAAC registry to see if I could find anything to support your assertion that CSX3057 was used for the CSX4000-series cars, but I couldn't find anything either way.

CSX4000 'glass car production started in late 1996 and HST only started supplying cars in 2003, so I suppose it's possible that CSX3057 was used to create the molds for the early cars. Could be why it wasn't finished until 1998.

In the end, we might need to ask the SAAC Registrar to help clear this mystery up.

[SunDude]

Originally Posted by Mike_I

It was rumored that the Midstates body was the same as the contemporary. They sure look the same to me. Don't know if that means it was splashed from 3045 and/or the contemporary copy?

Also, didn't FFR buy contemporary's mold and use it for the MKiV? If so, the MKiV would be from 3045.

I've been emailing the previous owner of Midstates to see if I can answer your question, but so far it doesn't sound like the molds were taken from Contemporary Classics. I will post any updates I get.

My understanding was that FFR had acquired the 427 molds from Contemporary, but didn't use them for the MkI to MkIII cars. Can anyone confirm this?

Contemporary also sold a Daytona Coupe and a 289 FIA. The Daytona Coupe molds were acquired by Lesher Motorsports; does anyone know whether Contemporary had splashed an original coupe and, if so, which one? Does anyone know which 289 FIA they used?