Drag race - Kirkham 65 side-oiler vs Ferrari 458 italia - Page 24

tommygold · #**461** (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 05:17 PM

Ladies and Gentlemen, here he is in the Cobra -- roughly 2/3 of the way through, he gets it up to around 30 miles an hour and complains that it gets loose: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvdXz8suWSA.

And here, he blows up an RV with an anti-aircraft rifle. Standard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJJqpKHyqik.

And here, he shoots a friend. Usual day at the office: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5Z-ap21xSo.

Buzz · #**462** (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ACademic

The commentary here has run the entire spectrum from informative to hilarious to assinine. Which is why we keep coming back for more.

I take full responsibility for the ass o' nine part!

computerworks · #**463** (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tommygold

Moderator may not have understood that Otomyx was referring back to another helpful offer to tape the race, not promoting a service.

Moderator understands...always.

The link to a promo site was edited out of his post.

fastd · #**464** (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 06:01 PM

in that video, dan said that his cobra had 800 HP. I'm just sayin'.

otomix · #**465** (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by tommygold

Otomix -- tell us the details of the car. Dan honestly doesn't even know.

Out of courtesy to tommygold I will post...

Yes Dan purchased car without full knowledge - and he is some what a no fear guy, when he left my house I led him on the freeway - he passed me about 120mph on non warmed up Goodyear Billboards with one hand on the wheel and one hand thumbs up. All I can say is the engine is a Shelby 427 Side Oiler with dual carbs. I never raced the car in any way, it was essentially just broken in with 1,500 easy miles. Like this year's Super Bowl or most high level competitive sports, he who fumbles will lose. A great high stakes Bet......tommygold has less to worry about, however must win 3 times..

Dimis · #**466** (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by otomix

Yes Dan purchased car without full knowledge - and he is some what a no fear guy, ....

Ahhhh... Me thinks this just loaded the odds in favor of Tommy.

No Fear = No Respect = Cobra WILL kill you!

There is every chance that with this cavalier attitude races 2 and 3 will be had in a canter by the prancing horse, after Blitz puts his snake into the wall.

I hope it isn't so!!!

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Blitz & Tommy - make sure you don't drive faster than you guardian angel can fly

Jamo · #**467** (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tommygold

Ladies and Gentlemen, here he is in the Cobra -- roughly 2/3 of the way through, he gets it up to around 30 miles an hour and complains that it gets loose: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvdXz8suWSA.

And here, he blows up an RV with an anti-aircraft rifle. Standard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJJqpKHyqik.

And here, he shoots a friend. Usual day at the office: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5Z-ap21xSo.

Well now it's really getting interesting.

I did a 3-day at Spring Mtn (Vettes...normals and ZO6s) and it's a pretty damn technical course. He learned quite a bit about the Cobra (feel of the clutch, tire traction) even if it was only a few laps.

BTW, when they combine both sides of the course, it becomes downright exhausting.

RodKnock · #**468** (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by otomix

All I can say is the engine is a Shelby 427 Side Oiler with dual carbs.

He should switch to a single carb for the race. I'm sure I'll get flamed by all the dual quad guys and gals now.

What's the big secret? Are we keeping the specs from a) Tommy, b) Dan, c) the audience or d) all of the above?

I assume if KC built it, it's probably a 482 or maybe a 496 with a roller cam.

Ibr8k4vetts · #**469** (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 09:04 PM

I would love to see the Cobra win and I am NOT a fan of Attorney's!!! I hope Tom kicks Dan's butt.

N2VENOM · #**470** (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock

I assume if KC built it, it's probably a 482 or maybe a 496 with a roller cam.

I know the previous owner and we drove our kirkhams to an event. It is a 482 unless there was a engine swap in the last 2 years. Darren

Dimis · #**471** (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibr8k4vetts

I would love to see the Cobra win and I am NOT a fan of Attorney's!!! I hope Tom kicks Dan's butt.

What the....?

Who is driving what?

tommygold · #**472** (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 10:01 PM

Many thanks to Otomyx and N2Venom for the intel, and apologies to the Mods for not understanding the edit to the post. It's truly amazing what a community this is -- so tight nit that you know individual cars!

Ok all, with it disclosed as a 482 s/o (I'm sure there was no engine change), does that change anyone's views?

Also Dan's car will be in tip-top shape. It had a bunch of stuff wrong -- shocking, given the incredible care he has shown it -- and it's all fixed up.

STL Mark · #**473** (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 10:11 PM

If he gets a couple of practice runs in - you are toast.

Save yourself the hassle and the money, pay the exit fee, save your paint, and send your old buds here at club cobra a fact finding fee.

Toast.

tkb289 · #**474** (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by m52mark

Buzz your cartoons get better and better !

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Originally Posted by JBCOBRA

+ a Couple on That!
Very Nice Buzz!

Keep 'em coming Buzz

RodKnock · #**475** (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tommygold

Ok all, with it disclosed as a 482 s/o (I'm sure there was no engine change), does that change anyone's views?

Not mine. Once I heard the name Keith Craft, then I assumed that the engine was a 482. If it were a 496 or even 527, then the equation changes to a certain extent. The dual quads, if not setup properly, could be BIG positive in your favor.

I think the heads are probably the "typical" Stage 2 ported Edelbrocks, but if they were Stage 3 heads, then Dan could have a BIG positive, depending if it were properly matched cam.

tommygold · #**476** (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 11:05 PM

Thanks RK. So folks, is it dual quads and state 2 or state 3 heads?

And STL Mark, I can't tell who you think should be buying out. You voted that I would lose, but because I would mess it up.

Test runs set for Maryland International Raceway Tuesday morning. One of your own already plans to be on hand. Video is probable.

Excaliber · #**477** (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 11:35 PM

One vs Two carbs on an FE has been a back and forth controversy for years. With both sides posting numbers and data to show why or why not one or two is better.

I'm in the two is better camp myself. The fuel distribution per cylinder is improved. In EITHER CASE the main thing is to make sure it's dialed in for the motor.

Tommy, for me the cube's dont change the picture that much. The basic problem with Cobras is how much of it can you hook up? I can't go 100% throttle on mine until somewhere around 80 mph and third gear. So, until then it wouldn't make much difference if I had 500 or 800 horse. That's why I've said the race will be the LAST 1/8th mile, not the first. At the end is where the really BIG horse power and cubes can finally be unleashed.

Goodyear Bill Boards? Pfffft, no chance he can hook the power up early.

CoolCarl · #**478** (**permalink**) 02-10-2011, 11:39 PM

This is a very exciting thread. But why?

Is it the amount of money involved?

Is it the size of the egos?

Is it Ford vs. Ferrari that dates back to the 60's?

Is it 60's tech. vs. modern tech?

I think its a combination of all of them that makes this thread so compelling.

Any other reason for this much interest?

Sinclair Snake · #**479** (**permalink**) 02-11-2011, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CoolCarl

This is a very exciting thread. But why?

Is it the amount of money involved?

Is it the size of the egos?

Is it Ford vs. Ferrari that dates back to the 60's?

Is it 60's tech. vs. modern tech?

I think its a combination of all of them that makes this thread so compelling.

Any other reason for this much interest?

I am interested in the old school vs new school, and the money involved. The ego's help alittle too, but if it was just two big ego's racing a couple of cobras for $500 bucks, it would'nt have made it to page 2.

STL Mark · #**480** (**permalink**) 02-11-2011, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by tommygold

And STL Mark, I can't tell who you think should be buying out. You voted that I would lose, but because I would mess it up.

Sorry T - you're a stand up guy for posting here, but new evidence has come in since I voted. That Keith Craft big block 482 with dual quads and slicks will crush you. Even a novice driver would be able to run low 11s with a couple practice runs before the event. He won't even have to hook up. Just a semi-aggressive launch that doesn't spin the tires, and some assertive shifting without missing a gear - and he'll win. If I could change my vote - I would.

Now, you may get close to driving past him as you cross the finish line, but if he stays in it hard - toast. Cheers and good luck.