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View Poll Results: March 8 in Vegas...
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Despite spotting the Cobra .2 on the ET, the Italia wins all 3.
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The Italia loses at least once.
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02-16-2011, 09:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamo
So...here's a new poll starting as of February 15, 2011 after you folks met up back East with the firm new rules: Tommy is spotting Blitz .2 on the ET each run, Blitz is using his grooved road racing slicks, and Tommy still has to win all three races.
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I'm still a bit confused as to what constitutes a "win".
Is a win "first to cross the finish line" with the tree programmed to give the cobra a 0.2 second head start?
....or, are we still going on just ET's?
Makes a difference to me in how I vote!
Cheers from Dugly 
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02-16-2011, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by GEE TEE
OK, the Ferrari will easily knock off low 11's with anyone behind the wheel. And don't think for a minute that Tom will back off. On the other hand, The Ferrari is not likely to do much better than it did yesterday.
Dan and his Cobra are a different story. Dan is determined, and he has a lot more power and a lighter car. If he can control his wheel spin he has a chance. But he better find some real drag racers to help him get the most out of his car. This is a contest between Dan's driving skill and the Ferrari engineers. Tom is just a spectator who made a good bet.
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This is my feelings as well. The Cobra has the potential for a faster run than the 458. It will be hard for the Cobra to hookup, but if it can it should run a faster time. |
02-16-2011, 10:40 AM
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Why does the dog wag its tail? 
computerworks, you can't answer. 
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02-16-2011, 11:49 AM
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In simple terms - Dan's cobra will run in the 10s with proper tuning and good (not pro) driving skills. The Ferrari will run consistant low 11s as demonstrated. And I like Dan's .2 hedge, and no fear win style. Unfortunately, I do not think we will be filming the event for an episode as no confirm to offset a few expenses for the film crew hosts copter etc..seems odd since these folks are high rollers..should be good for u tube
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02-16-2011, 12:04 PM
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I've never been an expert, ever, on anything, but I would think without traction, I don't see 10's or low 11's.
Also, I'm still very confused about the open car vs. roll cage issue. Will he or won't he be kicked off the track, if Dan's Cobra breaks 12's? I've heard responses that said if the track is rented and waivers are signed, then he can run what he brung. I've also heard that the track rules still apply no matter what, who or when.
If Dan runs only one run and he's kicked off the track, then I would think he forfeits the 2nd and 3rd runs. Assuming, track rules apply, in any situation.
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02-16-2011, 12:36 PM
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Dan would be wise to get a roll cage, proper harness, drive shaft loop, arm restraints, and any other safety equipment the track requires. He'll definitely go all out to win, but I don't think he has a death wish. Besides, the additional weight would probably help him with traction.
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02-16-2011, 01:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by YerDugliness
I'm still a bit confused as to what constitutes a "win".
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I'm glad it's not just me. I've read through the entire original thread and am still not sure what the negotiations last night really mean.
Last edited by Al G; 02-16-2011 at 01:31 PM..
Reason: Clarity
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02-16-2011, 03:18 PM
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Hi all. A win is defined by ET. We do 3 parallel runs. I have to win each parallel set. So he could launch 3 seconds after me, or vice versa, but we're generally going to try and go at the same time for the excitement factor. He will be in the Goodyear track slicks that look like billboards but are different; no drag slicks or drag radials. -Tom
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02-16-2011, 03:26 PM
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So are you going to use any kind of starter? Flag drop, bra toss, tree, etc?
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02-16-2011, 03:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Al G
I'm glad it's not just me. I've read through the entire original thread and am still not sure what the negotiations last night really mean.
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It's best ET (after adjusting for the .2 sec hedge). They will run heads-up so it will feel like a race, but the win is based on ET.
EDIT: Sorry, Tommy already answered.
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02-16-2011, 03:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d_ford
So are you going to use any kind of starter? Flag drop, bra toss, tree, etc?
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It's Vegas, has to be a bra, no? 
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02-16-2011, 05:41 PM
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Why does the dog wag its tail?
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I have 3 possible answers to share:
1) 'cos it's happy or excited
2) because the dog is smarter than the tail, otherwise the tail would wag the dog.
or more likely (& my answer to most things)
3) ...because it can!
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02-16-2011, 05:49 PM
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Tommy What kind of 60 foot times did your car run ? Thanks Mark
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02-16-2011, 06:07 PM
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Is the track going to kick Dan out after the first run for not having rollcage?
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02-16-2011, 10:49 PM
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In terms of the details of the runs, here's 1:
60' - 1.963
330 - 5.012
1/8 - 7.440
MPH - 100.84
1000 - 9.517
1/4 - 11.269
MPH - 131.84
And here's another:
60; - 1.929
330 - 4.976
1/8 - 7.405
MPH - 100.74
1000 - 9.480
1/4 - 11.228
MPH - 132.19
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02-16-2011, 11:25 PM
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Tommy, it doesn't look like you used the Ferrari launch control for your runs, is this correct?
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02-16-2011, 11:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimis
I have 3 possible answers to share:
1) 'cos it's happy or excited
2) because the dog is smarter than the tail, otherwise the tail would wag the dog.
or more likely (& my answer to most things)
3) ...because it can!
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Definitely number 2.
Thanks, Dimis.
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02-17-2011, 12:04 AM
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Fred - that's correct. I didn't use LC, so that I could use full auto.
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02-17-2011, 02:05 AM
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Thank you, great pics.......
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David, Thanks for taking the time, the pics turned out great a little slow arriving but got them nonetheless. The sound of the italia is awesome. Cheers, John AKA, tin-man
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02-17-2011, 03:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tommygold
Fred - that's correct. I didn't use LC, so that I could use full auto.
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Reasoning?? I would think the launch control would have given you the quickest time. Ahhhh.... maybe a courtroom two-step? 
With the 130+ trap speed and a 1.9+ 60 foot you're definately 10 second capable. Get that 60 foot down to a 1.6 or a 1.7 and you'll see a 10.9x... or better.
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