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02-26-2011, 09:25 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Louisville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: I'm Cobra-less!
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I have never used a Demon carb on my own personal stuff or customer engines that didn't have issues. I built a 428FE with a Tunnel Wedge and both of the Demon 1850-style carbs had issues with o-rings being left out of the transfer tubes. Others have been full of shavings and trash. It's just not worth it.
I use nothing but Quick Fuel carbs now. They even have a great Holley 1850 style carb that works well on dual carb intakes.
With that being said, I hate to see anyone lose their business because of the economy.
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02-26-2011, 09:44 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Cobra Make, Engine: spf 2112 *427 stroker windsor
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Barry grant would stop selling to there biggest world wide distributors!
Think about that for a second
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02-26-2011, 09:45 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roscoe
Hey Bill,
Tell us how you really feel.......
Warm regards,
Roscoe
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it's one thing to lose your business (been there, done that), it's another to have to deal with baseless lies as to why it happened. My personal belief is to leave rumors and conjecture for the bar over a few beers too many (for some it seems). and leave the facts speak for themselves.
Bill S.
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02-26-2011, 02:29 PM
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Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: TACOMA,
WA
Cobra Make, Engine: Everett Morrision FE 427 so 2-4s
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I just did another search at Summit . I type in "Barry Grant" and I get Holley, Quick Fuel ,Moroso but no BG or Barry Grant stuff.
What I did is I bought a Barry Grant diaphram adjustable fuel log turned it with the regulator and return end to the rear and used it to supply dual inline Holley fours. All the plumbing fittings, hoses, tubes, heat sheilding and so forth. I have what I want. If the diaphram or something should fail, I do not want to have to recreate the whole thing again, let alone the expense.
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02-27-2011, 06:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael C Henry
I just did another search at Summit . I type in "Barry Grant" and I get Holley, Quick Fuel ,Moroso but no BG or Barry Grant stuff.
What I did is I bought a Barry Grant diaphram adjustable fuel log turned it with the regulator and return end to the rear and used it to supply dual inline Holley fours. All the plumbing fittings, hoses, tubes, heat sheilding and so forth. I have what I want. If the diaphram or something should fail, I do not want to have to recreate the whole thing again, let alone the expense.
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You might try Jegs.
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02-27-2011, 12:37 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: UK Ram SC. KC-Yates 373, Jerico 5 speed.
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Barry Grant news
I was going to buy BG my suppliers opinion was go Aeromotive as he had a few comebacks with BG. A friend purchased a Demon carb and has had a good run with it, I picked it up and the heavy weight surprised me. I went Pro-systems for my carb and it has been great so far.
Its unfortunate that BG didnt do something with their quality control long ago, they seem to have some good ideas, but less than desirable standards in the factories! Its never nice to see someone like BG go under.
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02-27-2011, 01:46 PM
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Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: TACOMA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Everett Morrision FE 427 so 2-4s
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I'm sorry, Jeg's is carring BG stuff curently. As I remember it brought up 600 items. While looking around, there seems to be a lot of similarity between brands. Does a a third party manufacture to specifications? The BG adjustable length fuel log w/ adjustable diaphram return type fuel presure regulator is not shown. I wonder if parts( springs, diaphrams, Orings, and so forth) were or are industry standard and available from other sources?
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02-27-2011, 06:50 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Mechanicsville!,
PA
Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC/331/5 forward
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roscoe
My Speed Demon has served me well for over 10 years. Maybe because I got it long ago.
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Right with you. Have a Speed Demon on mine for 8 years now, the only trouble it has ever given was the need to drill the butterflys for more air at idle speed. I've had far, far worse issues with Holley equipment for well past 40 years.
They may not have been filet-mignon-perfect, but they certainly pushed Holley into producing much better stuff.
R.I.P., Demon carbs.
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02-27-2011, 07:19 PM
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster; 351W
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Isn't Barry Grant responsible for updating the carburetor market with the Claw series (predecesor to the Demon)? Prior to that Holley did not the HP series etc to my knowledge. I have a Road Race Demon and Speed Demon and am happy with the products. Holley has had their problems too and filed Chapter 11 not too long ago if memory serves. Regardless, it sucks to lose a supplier in this industry.
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02-28-2011, 03:04 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Bronxville, NY,
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carmine
Sad day
Demon carbs far superior design
Where Holley carbs should have been today
Summit and jegs used to carry at one time
Rumor has it that Holley approached summit and jegs
with ultimatum
If they continue to carry demon Barry grant products
they won't be allowed to sell Holley products
As you know holleys product line is a lot bigger than just carbs
That's how the big guy gets rid of it high quality little guy competition
Don't be surprised if Holley buys out Barry grants assets
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I wouldn't hold my breath -- Holley just came out of its second bankruptcy and is owned by its creditors.
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02-28-2011, 03:48 PM
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Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Ellington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster 351W, T5, Red & White
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As time moves on and the generations age and change, it would just seem the demand for carburetor products will decline. Even NASCAR is moving to FI in 2012, the antiques at 25 years and older have FI.
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02-28-2011, 05:02 PM
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Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: MARKSVILLE,LA.,,
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roscoe
My Speed Demon has served me well for over 10 years. Maybe because I got it long ago.
Roscoe
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Mine isn't that old, but once I jetted it to the motor's liking, I have not touched it again,been on my race car 5 or 6 years now and I bought it used back then from a fellow CC member!!!!!!!
David
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