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02-28-2011, 07:53 PM
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: Northern VA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadsters
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Which one of these two classic big block Ford engines do you like better
Which one of these do you believe was the better engine overall and which one produced the most HP per cubic inch. Also, which one do you think looked better??? Not necessarily for a Cobra, but overall.
The high reving overhead cam 427 SOHC cammer, . . . . or the deep breathing hemi Boss 429 in its original dual quad configuration?
I kinda lean toward the Boss 429.
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02-28-2011, 08:32 PM
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Oh!! Good question, never heard that one posed before. I'll pass on the h.p. per cube aspect of the question and focus, instead, on what would look coolest for the project.
T-Bucket? I might go with the Boss there, a nice mix of old and new(ish).
Cobra? I'll go with the FE Cammer, always a good choice for most Ford product's but not necessarily all.
I'll never get around to building another car, but if I did, I'd really like to do a 64 Thunderbolt, I just love those lines. In that case, I'd have to go with a classic FE though and neither of the above.
In any or all cases, you could certainly build more h.p. than you could handle!
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02-28-2011, 08:40 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: No city...only 118 residents in Manter,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra Auto Works body, Ron Godell Racecars chassis, 1989 Mustang GT 5.0 HO (converted to carb), W/C T-5, 3.73's in a Ford 9" Traction-Loc.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Excaliber
I'll never get around to building another car, but if I did, I'd really like to do a 64 Thunderbolt, I just love those lines. In that case, I'd have to go with a classic FE though and neither of the above.
In any or all cases, you could certainly build more h.p. than you could handle!
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I'm with you on the '64 Fairlane, Excaliber! My first driving experience was in a '64 Fairlane, and not one with the 289 HP engine, only the 260. It had a 3 on the tree and it would hold it's own against a local '64 Galaxie 500XL with a 390/4V and a top loader. The Thunderbolt has always been one of my dream cars (in fact, I had sourced a '64 Fairlane T-Bolt clone with a 406 tripower/top loader setup at the same time I purchased my Cobra, it was a tough decision!!).
As for the choice between the two engines, if it were up to me I'd go with the Boss 429. The 385 series has canted valve heads, and those things really put out incredible HP/torque. I don't know if the Boss heads have the canted valves, but I have to believe they would!!
I've never been a real fan of FE's though, and the difficulty finding parts for a SOHC would lead me to shy away from it even if I were (not that finding Boss 429 parts might be any easier ).
I'm anxious to hear what others have to say!
Cheers from Dugly !!
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02-28-2011, 09:29 PM
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really like the sohc motor but with a nickname like "shotgun motor" whats not to like?
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02-28-2011, 10:16 PM
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CAMMER all the way
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03-01-2011, 06:06 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Shreveport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4083, NOS 427 SOHC, serial number 589. Dyno'd in 1967 at 629HP with single 4v 560 Holley. Now with 4 Webers.
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I'm partial to the Cammer:
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03-01-2011, 07:28 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary 482 all aluminum Tunnelport Self built and owned since 1980 frame#0000017 and owner of frame CCX 33961 looking for an FIA body to go with it
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The cammer is a sweet engine but for the kind of money you would spend on it you could get more hp out of the Shotgun motor
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03-01-2011, 08:56 AM
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That cammer is unreal Al. Take it every day and all day. The hp is across the rpm range over 3500 k isn't it?
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03-01-2011, 09:03 AM
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As far as looks are concerned.....the "Cammer" wins hands down.....
the "Boss 9" is just to odd looking.......
HP wise....the "Boss 9"....
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03-01-2011, 09:58 AM
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Are we talking stock or unlimited???
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03-01-2011, 10:12 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: contemporary(2) one with 427 sohc and one with 427 center oiler
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all aluminum cammer for me please
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03-01-2011, 12:03 PM
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I admit to being biased,but if I ever build a Cobra this will be under the hood.
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03-01-2011, 12:17 PM
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Keith Craft has a cammer for sale, click on his link, its on his home page.
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03-01-2011, 12:27 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CAN-AM cobra, 460 SVO
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Vote: Kaase Boss 429
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Originally Posted by 69boss429
I admit to being biased,but if I ever build a Cobra this will be under the hood.
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I was JUST going to post that pic!! Love it, those cammers are so common, dont all Kirkhams come with one??
Feb 9/2011 Email from Kaase:
The aluminum block is adds a little to the bill. The complete engine with the Stack Injection, Billet Specialties drive and aluminum block is right at 34,000.00, dyno tested ready to go. This includes FAST ECU and Harness and really does not cost much more to go to 598 c.i. with the aluminum block
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03-01-2011, 12:41 PM
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and as I have a 460 already, a Boss might just fit with a bit of work.
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03-01-2011, 02:09 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary 482 all aluminum Tunnelport Self built and owned since 1980 frame#0000017 and owner of frame CCX 33961 looking for an FIA body to go with it
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rustyBob
As far as looks are concerned.....the "Cammer" wins hands down.....
the "Boss 9" is just to odd looking.......
HP wise....the "Boss 9"....
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What is so odd looking about a Hemi?
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03-01-2011, 03:18 PM
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For me it's not even a question. Cammers are cool but they get trumped by;
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03-01-2011, 03:46 PM
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anyone know/have pics of a cobra with a boss 429?
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03-01-2011, 05:33 PM
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Quote:
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anyone know/have pics of a cobra with a boss 429?
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sent to me by another club cobra member
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03-01-2011, 05:42 PM
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but then again,the old school look with a pair of Holleys is just so period correct.
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