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06-04-2011, 01:55 PM
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Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: arroyo grande, ca,
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Cobra Make, Engine: NAF 427
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So, is this anal or what?
Love the look of those old Stewart Warner 240-A fuel pumps from the 60's. Bought a few on e-bay over the years with the thought of rebuilding them. Even with the available parts on-line and the excellent instructions on the GT40 forum, the pumps I bought were beyond rebuilding, mostly due to bad corrosion.
I really wanted to mount a pair in my trunk, even for "show", then I got thinking. So with a little on-line research and some inventing, I got an idea.
I gutted a couple of the pumps and mounted a modern inline electric fuel pump inside and fashioned some prototype "plumbing" and voila - see pics.
I'll nickel plate the top and bottom pieces, paint the body the right color (?) and do the plumbing in stainless.
The result should be two working, modern inside, vintage looking outside, pumps.
Now that is anal !!!!!!!
Greg
(Fixed images...CW)
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06-04-2011, 02:20 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Chester Springs,
PA
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 289 FIA #690, FRPP 427 Boss engine
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Anal, yes, but sweet none the less.
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RCR GT40 SOLD to Fast 5
Kirkham #690 289 FIA
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06-04-2011, 02:46 PM
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Club Cobra Member
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Thanks for the comment. Still trying to post a bigger pic.
Greg
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06-04-2011, 04:54 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Redding,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra Maker
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I did some for a guy few years a go turned them into filters and ran a pump in the tank. thouse look better than mine. good job
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06-04-2011, 10:16 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Cobra Make, Engine: Unique Motorcars 289 USRRC, 1964 289 stroked to 331, toploader
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Way cool, man !
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06-05-2011, 05:38 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: E BRUNSWICK N.J. USA,
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Sorry, it's not ANAL
my427cobra Sorry Greg this is a great looking engineering trick. You may have started a new fad. Rick L.
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06-05-2011, 05:53 AM
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I agree with the anal thing but relate big time,the wife says that of me all the time.For me it has always been that if it don't look right then it is not.For what little effort it takes to make it look right the reward everytime you look at it afterward is worth every second of time spent making it that way.
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06-05-2011, 08:57 AM
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Club Cobra Member
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Thanks for the comments guys.
Next week I'll get the stainless lines done (so it won't look like home plumbing), get the bodies cleaned and painted and send the bits and pieces out for nickel plating. I'm using 1/2" ss lines to plumb it and this may be overkill (3/8" would probably do) but I figured a little more volume to my 2 -4bbl manifold won't hurt.
These electric pumps put out 30 gph and 5 - 9 psi each (the original SW pumps put out 60 gpm and 8psiadjustable down to 4psi), so they should be adequate for performance driving but maybe not enough for any all out competition.
Although when the racing Shelby Cobras had two in the trunk, only one was used at a time. One used when racing on a full tank and the second switched on when the tank was low to catch the fuel as it sloshed around.
I'll be using a regulator and return fuel line and I'm drawing from the tank througha Russell billet in line fuel filter (40 micron).
Back to the workbench.
Greg
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06-05-2011, 09:08 AM
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Club Cobra Member
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To CW. Thanks for fixing my pics. I appreciate it.
Greg
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06-05-2011, 09:14 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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Quote:
Originally Posted by my427cobra
Although when the racing Shelby Cobras had two in the trunk, only one was used at a time. One used when racing on a full tank and the second switched on when the tank was low to catch the fuel as it sloshed around.
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Actually both were used at the same time.
The Comp cars had a mechanical pump for normal fuel flow, and the S-Ws were turned on to pump the reserve.
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06-05-2011, 09:17 AM
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Thanks Computerworks for keeping the history correct. Any idea why they would have used the electric pumps and the mechanical pump?????
Greg
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06-05-2011, 09:29 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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...simplicity.
No gauge.
You raced till it sputtered, then flipped on the electrics to get to the pit for refueling.
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06-06-2011, 12:06 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique Motorcars 289 USRRC, 1964 289 stroked to 331, toploader
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Quote:
Originally Posted by my427cobra
Thanks for the comments guys.
Next week I'll get the bodies cleaned and painted and send the bits and pieces out for nickel plating.
Greg
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What's wrong with the cool vintage look? Fix the plumbing and install ...
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06-06-2011, 12:19 AM
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Location: San Diego,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR #455, KC427W, TWM-FI
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I like anal.
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06-06-2011, 12:57 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Brunswick,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 1311 428PI
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That's pretty sharp!
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06-06-2011, 07:10 AM
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Location: St. Lucia, West Indies,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC 383 stroker
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Nice work!
That's craftmanship. And attention to detail. That's the sort of thing that raises a nice Cobra up another level and makes it a work of art. Looking forward to seeing the finished pics!
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I like anal.
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Too much info!!
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06-06-2011, 08:25 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: arroyo grande, ca,
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Thanks for all the positive comments guys. I wasn't thinking in my earlier post when I said I would paint the bodies. What I should have said is I was going to clean them and alodine 1201 them (aircraft alodine) and restore them back to their original golden color. I'll try to match the color to a pair of original (untouched, not used,NOS) pumps I have.
I'm going to test mount them in my trunk and post a pic.
Greg
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06-06-2011, 08:39 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Sold ERA FIA 2139, 331 Weber IDF
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Any photos of how you secured the new pumps inside the old housings?
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06-06-2011, 05:56 PM
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Hey Wolf K. Are you trying to steal my secrets??????
Just kidding. I'll take some pics tomorrow morning.
Greg
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06-06-2011, 06:57 PM
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Not anal and damn creative! Done right, only your hairdresser will know I could even make the argument that every "replica" out there fits in the category of "modern inside, vintage looking outside".
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