Carroll Shelby ACCUSED OF SEXUAL ASSAULT - Page 3

lovehamr · #41 (**permalink**) 08-04-2011, 04:45 PM

Waiting............................

Dimis · #42 (**permalink**) 08-04-2011, 04:58 PM

I thought our moderator was a lawyer... No?

HI Cobra · #43 (**permalink**) 08-04-2011, 09:29 PM

Yes - but definitely not the kind I was referring to. Different area of expertise
and not out there as a wayward leech - a la Edwards for instance. There are
some good ones out there, including my brother.

Mattnshilp · #44 (**permalink**) 08-04-2011, 11:36 PM

My brother and sister-in-law are lawyers - both corporate.

I just hate the ones who need to ruin someone's life to make a buck!!!

Jamo · #45 (**permalink**) 08-05-2011, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimis

I thought our moderator was a lawyer... No?

Well yeah...I'm a management-side labor and employment type bloodsucker. I fight off unionization, negotiate labor agreements, and defend against employment lawsuits, including...

...oh my gosh...sexual harassment suits. We have several of these cases at any one time. They are, without a doubt, the worst type of litigation for an employer to defend against. Win or lose, by the time the litigation ends, people are hurt emotionally on both sides. There is insurance coverage for these types of suits, but it's extremely expensive for small to medium sized employers, and many go without.

For our Aussie buds, we do not enjoy the rational approach followed in the Commonwealth, which some of my Gashole buddies (who can bite my ass...again) alluded to above...loser pays. We on the defense side do not work on contingencies...so the employer incurs the expense regardless of the outcome.

Regardless of training supervisors and employees on how to keep their damn hands off each other, etc., and how well HR carries out investigations...these type of suits are easy to file. We (defense attorneys) knock out the vast majority by sifting through obvious BS and getting those cases dismissed...you never hear about those. The cases that get past our initial hits are then subject to settlement by insurance companies or the employers if there is a probability of liability. Only a small percentage go to trial. If we win, you don't hear about it...the relatively few the plaintiffs win make it to the front page.

Sex sells.

Jamo · #46 (**permalink**) 08-05-2011, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattnshilp

My brother and sister-in-law are lawyers - both corporate.

I just hate the ones who need to ruin someone's life to make a buck!!!

Nice save.

tin-man · #47 (**permalink**) 08-05-2011, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamo

Well yeah...I'm a management-side labor and employment type bloodsucker. I fight off unionization, negotiate labor agreements, and defend against employment lawsuits, including...

...oh my gosh...sexual harassment suits. We have several of these cases at any one time. They are, without a doubt, the worst type of litigation for an employer to defend against. Win or lose, by the time the litigation ends, people are hurt emotionally on both sides. There is insurance coverage for these types of suits, but it's extremely expensive for small to medium sized employers, and many go without.

For our Aussie buds, we do not enjoy the rational approach followed in the Commonwealth, which some of my Gashole buddies (who can bite my ass...again) alluded to above...loser pays. We on the defense side do not work on contingencies...so the employer incurs the expense regardless of the outcome.

Regardless of training supervisors and employees on how to keep their damn hands off each other, etc., and how well HR carries out investigations...these type of suits are easy to file. We (defense attorneys) knock out the vast majority by sifting through obvious BS and getting those cases dismissed...you never hear about those. The cases that get past our initial hits are then subject to settlement by insurance companies or the employers if there is a probability of liability. Only a small percentage go to trial. If we win, you don't hear about it...the relatively few the plaintiffs win make it to the front page.

Sex sells.

All things considered I think Jamo should run for President during the next elections. All in favor? tin-man

Jamo · #48 (**permalink**) 08-05-2011, 12:31 AM

Only if I get a moderator button to use on Congress.

BTW...the current President of these here United States was a union-side labor and employment attorney. We fought his firm back in the early part of this century.

tin-man · #49 (**permalink**) 08-05-2011, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamo

Only if I get a moderator button to use on Congress.

BTW...the current President of these here United States was a union-side labor and employment attorney. We fought his firm back in the early part of this century.

but did you win? tin-man

Jamo · #50 (**permalink**) 08-05-2011, 01:50 AM

Wage and hour class action lawsuit involving hundreds of employees involving dozens of federal and state allegations. Settled for a fraction of what they claimed. Small part of a union organizing drive which also involved a separate gender discrimination class action suit brought by Gloria Allred's firm (also settled). We won the union election, and therefore, the war.

The attorneys we dealt with talked about how they had a rising political star within their midst back in Chicago. Little did we know.

CobraEd · #51 (**permalink**) 08-05-2011, 02:13 AM

[quote=Jamo;1144330]Only if I get a moderator button to use on Congress.

QUOTE]

If "PRO" = good
And "CON" = bad

then:

Progress is good
and Congress is bad!

.

Jamo · #52 (**permalink**) 08-05-2011, 02:19 AM

But anyway...back to the thread. Don't expect a lot of news on the suit against Shelby in the short term. These cases take a bit of time early on before things really start happening.

fastraxsg · #53 (**permalink**) 08-05-2011, 09:41 AM

I'm a practical kinda guy and this doesn't seem like it would make it past the initial stages: she got grabbed sometime before Dec. 2010, she got drugged and raped in Dec. of 2010 and there is no hospital report, no police report, no rape kit evidence, no photos of bruises, no DNA evidence or what not and she has a case with a lawyer that is going to stick up for her based on What???? He said, she said...? Sounds like old Shel might get his name tarnished a bit but how far can this go? Maybe unemployment doesn't cover her lifestyle needs.

YerDugliness · #54 (**permalink**) 08-05-2011, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastraxsg

Sounds like old Shel might get his name tarnished a bit but how far can this go? Maybe unemployment doesn't cover her lifestyle needs.

To many of us, CS's treatment of the replica industry has already "soiled" his name, so to speak (I'm sure you can read between the lines). This can't make it any worse.....I'm just sayin'

!!

Cheers from Dugly

BMK · #55 (**permalink**) 08-05-2011, 04:51 PM

Certainly not the news we want to hear or read.

If it found to be a money grab and she is proved to be a liar she will not be able to sleep at night with a 427 idling out the front of her home all night... I'll take the 5 - 6 am shift with 117dB at 2500rpm..

HealeyRick · #56 (**permalink**) 08-05-2011, 07:36 PM

Can't we just go back to the late '60s when CS was a hero and Bill Cosby could go over 200 "on any side street"?

BMK · #57 (**permalink**) 08-13-2011, 12:15 PM

Hmm and gas was 12 cents...

csx4910 · #58 (**permalink**) 08-13-2011, 07:05 PM

And CSX 427 cars were only $5000

Great Asp · #59 (**permalink**) 08-14-2011, 10:40 AM

I heard she drives a small block.

JK...

E

KSW64 · #60 (**permalink**) 08-14-2011, 01:07 PM

I met and spoke with ol' Shel at the Shelby American Collection last week in Boulder. Unless he has just gone down hill very very fast in the last few months, I am not sure he could grope himself much less a much younger female. I just cannot see him chasing a young filly around his desk trying to cop a feel! He was pleasant to talk with but you can tell that he is not long for this world.

All in all, we owe him quite a bit for his mark on the automotive world but even more so, he is a walking testament to the wonderful healthcare/tranplant pioneers we have in the US. In 1960, he was told to live life large because he would be gone in 5 years.

Ken