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Old 10-04-2011, 04:26 PM
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But you would agree that an ERA built 100% by the elves in New Britain is clearly superior to an SPF with its vertical radiator, drop down pedals, and the like.
And before Ding Dong above mentions it, ERA is the only manufacturer that has a complete manual.

Phew! I'm glad I beat him to it.
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:07 PM
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... ERA is the only manufacturer that has a complete manual.
Which would definitely come in handy if you were looking at a routine chore, such as changing out a rear wheel bearing, and found yourself left with no alternative but to sit on your ass waiting for your SCOF membership to clear along with your secret decoder ring to be delivered.
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:15 PM
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This car sold at Mecum for $63,000.00. Not a roller, a complete car, ready to drive.

- Rare and period correct 427 CI side oiler engine
- CSX 6019
- Brand new CSX Shelby Cobra
- Factory autherized Shelby Cobra dealership
- Fully documented with a copy of the original MSO signed by Carroll Shelby himself - Carroll Shelby's signature also graces the glove box
- Guardsman Blue with Black interior
- Medium riaser aluminum heads
- Shelby style side winder intake, producing an earth shattering 550 HP on standard super unleaded pump gas
- 4-wheel independent suspension
- 4-wheel disc brakes
- 90" wheel base
- High strength fiberglass composite body
- Rack and pinion steering
- 15" original Stle wood rim steering wheel
- Aluminum fender closeout panels, front and rear
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:20 PM
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.....in August 2009, if I reading properly.

1965 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C Roadster Continuation, CSX 6019, 427 CI Side Oiler for sale by Mecum Auction

That was a great deal.....two + years ago.
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:24 PM
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This car sold at Mecum for $63,000.00. Not a roller, a complete car, ready to drive.

- Rare and period correct 427 CI side oiler engine
- CSX 6019
- Brand new CSX Shelby Cobra
- Factory autherized Shelby Cobra dealership
- Fully documented with a copy of the original MSO signed by Carroll Shelby himself - Carroll Shelby's signature also graces the glove box
- Guardsman Blue with Black interior
- Medium riaser aluminum heads
- Shelby style side winder intake, producing an earth shattering 550 HP on standard super unleaded pump gas
- 4-wheel independent suspension
- 4-wheel disc brakes
- 90" wheel base
- High strength fiberglass composite body
- Rack and pinion steering
- 15" original Stle wood rim steering wheel
- Aluminum fender closeout panels, front and rear
I believe this car sold more than two years ago. A truly great buy...However, even with the current crisis in the US< I doubt you would find such a deal in today's market. At least before I found it first (no joke intended)

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Sorry 92" for the Backdraft.
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:30 PM
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CSX4045 sold this year at Mecum for $64,000.00. Complete car.

- Early, non-dealer 4000 series Cobra by Shelby. Not a replica
- Fiberglass body
- Finished by Gerry Rumsey (local Ford expert) 1997, titled as 1965
- 427 2x4 carburetor (Holly 650's) backed by 4-speed top loader, big indout (NOS)
- 3.55 Dana independent rear
- Lakewood Bell Housing with 12" clutch, clutch slave cylinder
- Aluminum dress up panel kit
- Tonneau cover (not installed)
- Differential cooler
- Binder with spec sheet and all receipts
- 4 point Simpson belts
- Brutal performance in a drivable car
- Original style firling brakes
- SAAC conversion track days only (2x), otherwise no track use. Low miles with continuous careful maintenance
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:33 PM
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As eveyone else has said, you need to buy the car that fits you and your style. Some of the 60" wheelbase cars won't work for tall people, so you need to look at what else is available. What extras do you want? Look on Cobracountry, there are a lot of different makes on this web site. I bought a Backdraft after looking at SPF and some others. Why did I buy a Backdraft? one reason was because I could not fit in the other cars. the BD has a 62" wheelbase and the price for what you get was great it also sits on BMW suspension which is easy to replace if needed. Look at all the cars and drive as many as you can to see which one feels right for you. Good Luck
90 inch and 92 inch wheelbase - I hate it when I do or say something like that and I know better and can't figure out why I did so.
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:51 PM
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CSX4045 sold this year at Mecum for $64,000.00. Complete car.

- Early, non-dealer 4000 series Cobra by Shelby. Not a replica
- Fiberglass body
- Finished by Gerry Rumsey (local Ford expert) 1997, titled as 1965
- 427 2x4 carburetor (Holly 650's) backed by 4-speed top loader, big indout (NOS)
- 3.55 Dana independent rear
- Lakewood Bell Housing with 12" clutch, clutch slave cylinder
- Aluminum dress up panel kit
- Tonneau cover (not installed)
- Differential cooler
- Binder with spec sheet and all receipts
- 4 point Simpson belts
- Brutal performance in a drivable car
- Original style firling brakes
- SAAC conversion track days only (2x), otherwise no track use. Low miles with continuous careful maintenance
I couldn't find any info on CSX4045, but that doesn't mean anything.

If you're brave enough to bid at auction for a CSX, then these two CSX's were outstanding buys. I'm not sure if the prices include buyer's premium, but they may.

There are no deals like those in the non-auction market AFAIK. For $64K, I'll be there first.
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:58 PM
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But you would agree that an ERA built 100% by the elves in New Britain is clearly superior to an SPF with its vertical radiator, drop down pedals, and the like.
I really do not care about the orientation of the radiator as long as it keeps the engine cool. So far it's been in 107 degree temps and it's run fine and kept cool.

Pedals? As long as they work, I'm happy.

What is important to me is that it is reliable, comfortable, and I'm happy with it.

I do not care about originalty. Anything built/sold after 1967 is a kit, replica, continuation, or whatever term you wish to apply to the car. Regardless, it's not an original no matter how hard you try to make it be one.

Now with that said, I personally believe that ERA probably makes the best kit available today. And your Cobra is a beautiful example, and you have every right to be proud of it. The only downside I can see is the owners attitude at times that feels the pedal location or radiator orientation somehow make his car superior.
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:00 PM
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Well John, that was a surprisingly well written retort.
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:16 PM
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Right on John, the best response yet to the question.

These cars are not good investments. The only Cobra's that would be a good investment is one of the original 1000, that's of course if you purchased the car in 1965.

They're all fakes after that...Harrr! ..... I like fakes just fine.
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:33 PM
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Well John, that was a surprisingly well written retort.
Not bad for a furry primate huh?

And honest, it was not intended to offend you, or anyone else.
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Old 10-04-2011, 06:36 PM
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And honest, it was not intended to offend you, or anyone else.
It would have been better had it had, but nonetheless, it's still better than graphing degenerate conics....
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:01 PM
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My money would go to Kirkham if check-book allowed.

Otherwise ERA or SPF, if I wanted a glass car and depending on what my intended use was. ERA if I wanted a big block & SPF if I wanted a small block or mod motor.

Unfortunately, I can't see any reason that I'd part with funds to have a CSX car?

Its about as simple as that for me.
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Old 10-05-2011, 12:47 AM
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Some fiberglass CSX cars were built by HST International in Mexico, but they went out of business about a year ago. Some builders (Becker, Denbeste) considered the HST cars to be of higher quality, although I don't think a mere mortal could tell the difference from a HiTech car.

HST built a handful or two of carbon fiber cars. Mine is one.
There are at least 7 carbon fiber bodied CSX cars that I know of.
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Old 10-05-2011, 09:37 AM
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There are at least 7 carbon fiber bodied CSX cars that I know of.
You're right. Somewhere between one and two handfuls, but not on to toes yet Mine was one of the first, and in fact, the first two were two of the CSX4000LA cars.
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CSX4045 sold this year at Mecum for $64,000.00. Complete car.

- Early, non-dealer 4000 series Cobra by Shelby. Not a replica
- Fiberglass body
- Finished by Gerry Rumsey (local Ford expert) 1997, titled as 1965
- 427 2x4 carburetor (Holly 650's) backed by 4-speed top loader, big indout (NOS)
- 3.55 Dana independent rear
- Lakewood Bell Housing with 12" clutch, clutch slave cylinder
- Aluminum dress up panel kit
- Tonneau cover (not installed)
- Differential cooler
- Binder with spec sheet and all receipts
- 4 point Simpson belts
- Brutal performance in a drivable car
- Original style firling brakes
- SAAC conversion track days only (2x), otherwise no track use. Low miles with continuous careful maintenance

Owner of CSX4045 states his car was a "NO SALE" at $64,000 at Mecum.


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Old 10-05-2011, 10:12 AM
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A guy I know that looked at my CSX decided he was going to get a Superformance. By the time he was done he'd spent $85K. Becker's roller at 70K + 20K for power train, not so different...

To the original poster: Watch 427 Cobra Country--Ford AC Cobra replica manufacturers SUPER-SITE. It's the best place to find stuff.
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Old 10-05-2011, 10:32 AM
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A guy I know that looked at my CSX decided he was going to get a Superformance. By the time he was done he'd spent $85K.
Unfortunately, the time is fast approaching where a well-built top-of-the-line glass car, be it ERA, SPF, or CSX, will be over six figures.
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