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12-29-2011, 04:37 PM
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Is This Crazy?
In one of the other topics, one of our illustrious cohorts wrote this:
"If you want to do burn out to impress the friends, add a water kit and bars to spray the rear tires and help save the drive train."
I have often thought about installing a water sprayer for the rear tires. This is the first time I have ever heard of anyone else suggesting it. I even bought a whole windshield washer system from a junkyard, but have never gotten around to installing it. Has anyone done this?
The sprayer would loosen up the rear end for quick u-turns. I often have to do u-turns on rallies. It would be great because three point turns are a hassle on narrow roads. Other cars I have owned, have had hand brakes capable of locking up the rear wheels for the same purpose. I would use also the handbrake on an autocross course to u-turn around a pylon quickly. The Jag brakes on my Cobra does not have the capability to lock the tires, however. On rainy days, I can quickly spin the Cobra's rear end around with a quick clutch pop and not hurt anything. I am thinking the water sprayer would allow the same thing on dry roads.
The big danger, of course, is accidentally triggering the system at speed. I am thinking a covered toggle switch might be good. Adding an interlock that would prevent engagement in anything but first gear would be better. It may be crazy, but also a lot of fun!
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12-29-2011, 04:59 PM
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Your freeking kidding, right?
I guess as long as you are not on the street and there are no other vehicles around it would be ok.
If you are talking about on the street, then I repeat, Your freeking kidding, right?
Just my opinion, which meens squat.
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12-29-2011, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tcrist
If you are talking about on the street, then I repeat, Your freeking kidding, right?
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+1
If you're on the street, then stay FAR away from me.
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12-29-2011, 05:27 PM
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Hey guys, maybe he has a small block and needs some assistance breaking the tires loose.
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12-29-2011, 05:43 PM
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12-29-2011, 05:44 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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An Idea...
Perhaps you could combine it with the "flame thowing" effects that you can get from some of the catalogs. That way you could warm your tires up, and then cool them down, at will.
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12-29-2011, 05:47 PM
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why not just add a bleach sprayer for the tires and really impress.....lol
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12-29-2011, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FWB
why not just add a bleach sprayer for the tires and really impress.....lol
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That's not a bad idea... but I like bleach sprayed under one wheel, and ammonia sprayed under the other, for the combined effect.
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12-29-2011, 05:51 PM
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is this an April fools joke??????????????????????????????
If your motor will not spin the tires then buy some BFG T/A radial. Any motor will spin them.
Dwight
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12-29-2011, 09:31 PM
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I designed this exact thing (water spray) in high school drafting class. Got an A! LOL!
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12-30-2011, 12:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RallySnake
In one of the other topics, one of our illustrious cohorts wrote this:
"If you want to do burn out to impress the friends, add a water kit and bars to spray the rear tires and help save the drive train."
I have often thought about installing a water sprayer for the rear tires. This is the first time I have ever heard of anyone else suggesting it. I even bought a whole windshield washer system from a junkyard, but have never gotten around to installing it. Has anyone done this?
The sprayer would loosen up the rear end for quick u-turns. I often have to do u-turns on rallies. It would be great because three point turns are a hassle on narrow roads. Other cars I have owned, have had hand brakes capable of locking up the rear wheels for the same purpose. I would use also the handbrake on an autocross course to u-turn around a pylon quickly. The Jag brakes on my Cobra does not have the capability to lock the tires, however. On rainy days, I can quickly spin the Cobra's rear end around with a quick clutch pop and not hurt anything. I am thinking the water sprayer would allow the same thing on dry roads.
The big danger, of course, is accidentally triggering the system at speed. I am thinking a covered toggle switch might be good. Adding an interlock that would prevent engagement in anything but first gear would be better. It may be crazy, but also a lot of fun!
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Really? Do you guys have nothing better to do? I know you aren't snowed in in Northridge!
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12-30-2011, 12:22 PM
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To respond to the negative posts: I have torn up two differentials, 12+ sets of tires and the bearing in one rear hub in my 25 years of autocrosses, burnouts, donuts and rallies. I do have way too much fun with my big, small block and this project is intended to reduce the cost of broken bits. If you never spin your tires, drift through turns or run on a track, then I am sure you find this idea crazy.
For the positive posts: Thanks for your interest. The best thing about these forums is sharing ideas. I was really hoping to hear from someone who has tried it. Jaguar rear ends are really difficult to fix!
The weather in Northridge is beautiful, sunny and 68 degrees right now. This is THE place to own an open sports car. You just have to put up with the outragious cost of living and local politics. Here's a view you don't get in Arizona:
RS
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12-30-2011, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by RallySnake
To respond to the negative posts: I have torn up two differentials, 12+ sets of tires and the bearing in one rear hub in my 25 years of autocrosses, burnouts, donuts and rallies. I do have way too much fun with my big, small block and this project is intended to reduce the cost of broken bits. If you never spin your tires, drift through turns or run on a track, then I am sure you find this idea crazy.
For the positive posts: Thanks for your interest. The best thing about these forums is sharing ideas. I was really hoping to hear from someone who has tried it. Jaguar rear end stuff is getting expensive!
The weather in Northridge is beautiful, sunny and 68 degrees right now. This is THE place to own an open sports car. You just have to put up with the outragious cost of living and local politics.
RallySnake,
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You treat your cars the way you want to. They are your cars. But I would not be proud to announce that I have gone through two differentials, 12+ sets of tires and a bearing in a hub doing mindless burnouts, auto-crosses etc.!
I too, am a racer with two full blown road course Mustangs sitting in my garage. I just don't see the thrill that you do by doing burnouts and abusing the car for purposes that it was not intended to do. I know you are smarter than that because I have seen your posts on here for years.
I grew up in Canoga Park/Northridge and moved to Phoenix where it will be 75 degrees this afternoon! I am aware of the cost of living and the politics. Why do you think I moved?
Not trying to take the wind out of your sails. I just don't get the useless burnouts! Maybe your cost of living is too high because you spend too much money on tires!
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12-30-2011, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Slither
Not trying to take the wind out of your sails. I just don't get the useless burnouts! Maybe your cost of living is too high because you spend too much money on tires!
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Well it's not like he's hurting anybody... and he enjoys it, so WTF. It's really no different than a lot of other hobbies that essentially just tear stuff up with really nothing to show for it. For example, shooting skeet or trap -- at the end of the day you've busted a lot of clay birds, wasted primers, wads, powder, and shot... and what do you have to show for it? Absolutely nothing.
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12-30-2011, 01:47 PM
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Everyone gets their own personal satisfaction fron one thing or another with most of them being not all that cost effective......
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12-30-2011, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by frdfver
Everyone gets their own personal satisfaction fron one thing or another with most of them being not all that cost effective......
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Uhhh, Paul... without question the "Cobra hobby" has been the least cost effective of any of my stupid hobbies -- by far.
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12-30-2011, 03:14 PM
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Patrickt, I like that and also resemble that, hoping soon that I will join the rest of the drivers instead of builders....Still throwing money at it and all my other hobbies.
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12-30-2011, 03:23 PM
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I thought NRA Highpower was expensive. My Distinguished Riflemans badge probably set me back $10k and 5 years of hard work.
The Cobra is more expensive.
In the end we do hobbies because they are fun or somehow rewarding.
John
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12-30-2011, 09:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RallySnake
To respond to the negative posts: I have torn up two differentials, 12+ sets of tires and the bearing in one rear hub in my 25 years of autocrosses, burnouts, donuts and rallies.
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There are cars that go to the drags every week that haven't gone through as many parts as that. I would explore a properly setup Ford 9" or equivalent and move in that direction.
How much water do you plan to load back there? Isn't there a "diminishing returns" factor?
You're original question is "Am I crazy?" er, I mean, "Is this crazy?"
I think so, but if you screw around off road, then "Vaya con dios." But if you're thinking of employing this "technology" on our streets, highways and freeways with other cars and people around, then I think you should be incarcerated. And likely only a matter of time.
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12-31-2011, 01:44 AM
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If I had extra money to waste, I would spend my money on water injecting the engine and make more power to break the tires loose. ...or if you ride with a passanger, drill a big hole in the floor and you can both pour sand or water through the hole. On long trips you wouldn't even need to stop for a bathroom break you could piss and u-turn at the same time.
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