Cobra Front to rear weight balance

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

There is no god damn duty.

Well then you don't need to be apologizing to anyone.

[lovehamr]

Originally Posted by AL427SBF

Big Block guys forever trying to make the case that there is no weight/distribution difference between a FE and a Windsor. Absolutely laughable, you can't argue with physics. Spend some time around the road course guys who WIN and see what they are running lol.

Yup, for all you doubting-Thomas...es, just look at this beak heavy big block as it tries to get around the cones. It's just (what was the word?) "laughable."

1966 Cobra sweeps the autocross - YouTube

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by lovehamr

Yup, for all you doubting-Thomas...es, just look at this beak heavy big block as it tries to get around the cones. It's just (what was the word?) "laughable."

1966 Cobra sweeps the autocross - YouTube

Good point.

You forgot to add that he was specifically told not to return the next year, even though it's common for the prior year's winner to return.

[AL427SBF]

yeah, those BB are murder in a parking lot, like autocross = road race lmao.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by AL427SBF

yeah, those BB are murder in a parking lot, like autocross...

You and Silverback need to quit apologizing. We accept you for who you are, and it's ok.

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by patrickt

You and Silverback need to quit apologizing. We accept you for who you are, and it's ok.

I apologize to those that I have offended when they did not deserve it. I do not however apologize for who I am.

[sspano01]

i wish i ran the autocross like that! i
i think i need alot more practice before my engine becomes the limiting factor :P

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

I do not however apologize for who I am.

Nor should you. Your apology over your engine choice was more than enough for even the most rabid carnivores on this forum. I think we should just forget the whole thing and ignore them all together. How does that sound?

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Nor should you. Your apology over your engine choice was more than enough for even the most rabid carnivores on this forum. I think we should just forget the whole thing and ignore them all together. How does that sound?

Seems to me that you need to call your nurse for your medications. Your mind it playing tricks on you again.

And with that, I'm done whoring up this thread with you. Try your mindless battle with someone you can beat.

And go ahead, you can have the last word.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

And go ahead, you can have the last word.

I'm just glad we were able to help the OP.

[lovehamr]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

Good point.

You forgot to add that he was specifically told not to return the next year, even though it's common for the prior year's winner to return.

Yup:

Final 2009 OPTIMA Ultimate Street Car Results:
2009 OPTIMA Ultimate Street Car
1st Place: Bruce Cambern, ’66 Cobra
2nd Place: Ryan Matthews, ’69 Camaro
3rd Place: Mark Stielow, ’69 Camaro

Baer Brakes Speed Stop Challenge
1st Place: Bruce Cambern, ’66 Cobra
2nd Place: Bruce Cambern, ’66 Cobra

Ridetech Street Challenge Autocross
1st Place: Bruce Cambern, ’66 Cobra
2nd Place: Bruce Cambern, ’66 Cobra

BF Goodrich Hot Lap Challenge
1st Place: Bruce Cambern, ’66 Cobra
2nd Place: Ryan Matthews, ’69 Camaro

Speed by Spectre Design/Build Challenge
1st Place: Barry Blomquist, ’62 Corvette
2nd Place: Josh Henning, ’67 Chevelle

Wonder why they didn't want him back........... Probably because the beak heavy POS would have been beaten to easily...................

Oh, AL427SBF, you did notice that it swept all the performance comps wich included a RR right? It did lose in the "Design/Build" challenge though. Maybe if he'd put a sb in it with wings and things he'd have done better in the boy racer catagory.

[avanti-176]

Originally Posted by lovehamr

Yup, for all you doubting-Thomas...es, just look at this beak heavy big block as it tries to get around the cones. It's just (what was the word?) "laughable."

1966 Cobra sweeps the autocross - YouTube

As I recall that Cobra had a TON of suspension work done to it, so much so, that it really did not resemble the original suspension. Might have had a little affect on the outcome..... I could be wrong though.

[mdross1]

The correct police are never going away as are the my way is the only way.The brand wars are as hot today as ever.Good thing non of these narrow focused types affected my decision to build the car I have always wanted.Never been 100% brand loyal other than not buying junk.Used to wonder how could a person be so driven as to say what is right and everybody else is wrong.The old saying is certainly true."It takes all types to make the Big Blue Ball revolve"With that said:can a motorcycle with 8 cylinders still be called a motorcycle?

[Tommy]

My car, which was originally constructed as a dedicated SCCA racer, has its 410 ci Windsor engine set back as far as possible. It weighs in at 48% front, 52% rear with me and a half tank of gas in it. ... In spite of all that, there are plenty of cars faster than me on track day because I'm not the best driver. .... If you're looking to maximize the performance of your car/driver combination, I suggest you focus more on driving schools than what kind of metal surrounds your pistons. I suspect you'll find that any large displacement V8 will provide more power than you can handle at the limits of your car's performance envelope.

[Silverback51]

I have said many times before, and I will say it again.

The throttle is a rheostat, not an on/off switch.

To me the greatest and most exhilarating thing is to be able to press down on that throttle pedal and know that I’m right on the limit. Be it in a corner or on a straight it’s just a terrific feeling.

So personally I don’t feel I can have too much horsepower. You just need to learn to use the maximum that you can for the moment.

[vector1]

ditto the on off switch. i learned racing karts that instead of mashing the accelerator to ease into it as early as possible through the turn. reduced times were a result. was one of the harder things to learn, but a person has the potential to learn a lot tearing other peoples' stuff up, and rear tire spin was not fast either

[Dominik]

One day I took my all-aluminium 496 out and replaced it with a cast iron 454 (Yes, Chevy). I had to raise the suspension front & rear to equal amounts to compensate.

My finding is: 50/50 either way. The "heavy" front end and pushing (understeer) is a myth. Probably tire related.

Just weigh an AUDI A6 front vs rear. It's probably 70/30 (or a Cadillac). Any eco-box (German Corsa-C, total weight 2.200lbs) weighs more in the front than a decent Cobra!

[Jerry Clayton]

My block weighs 99lbs, crankshaft 42lbs------

[Avmaviator]

F-R balance is one thing but for RR and those kind of events relying on cornering, the vertical location of this weight has a big impact.
Do sbf have their weight lower then the bb? Maybe that is one reason for that argument.

I don't know the answer to that question btw... Anybody? Oh and this is coming from someone with a bb Patrick, so you know where my heart is

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Avmaviator

Anybody? Oh and this is coming from someone with a bb Patrick, so you know where my heart is

And a pretty good question it is. 100 lbs. bolted to the top of one of my roll bars would seemingly have a different impact than an additional 100 lbs directly on the frame. It's that whole "torque" thing....