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02-03-2012, 04:34 PM
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HELP. Looking a purchasing a used cobra and can't identify the manufacturer
Here is what I know:
Black with purple stripes
351 Cleveland motor
ladder frame
5 bolt wheels
Jaguar rear end
Tremec 5 speed
Possible Vin starts with "BR".
Help? Anyone have any insight into this mystery car?
Thanks, Damon
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02-03-2012, 04:53 PM
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Location: New Britain,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Size 10 Feet
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomads2000
Here is what I know:
Black with purple stripes
351 Cleveland motor
ladder frame
5 bolt wheels
Jaguar rear end
Tremec 5 speed...
Thanks, Damon
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That covers more than a half-dozen manufacturers. Pictures of the engine compartment and firewall, dash/interior, and trunk interior would help.
Is it for sale in a public place where we can take a look?
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02-03-2012, 04:54 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
SC
Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomads2000
Here is what I know:
Black with purple stripes
351 Cleveland motor
ladder frame
5 bolt wheels
Jaguar rear end
Tremec 5 speed
Possible Vin starts with "BR".
Help? Anyone have any insight into this mystery car?
Thanks, Damon
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Pictures of the dash, firewall, trunk, and front and rear frame at the very least.
Bill S.
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02-03-2012, 04:59 PM
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Thanks guys. It's for sale and I'm looking at it with a friend shortly. I'll post pictures and hopefully we can solve the mystery. The engine is out of it so I can get a clear shot of the engine back, interior, ladder frame etc.
I think it's a little bit older. The one quirk that stuck out to me was the interior door panel had a modern/normal door handle, not the standard rear edge latch. Any thoughts? Of course, that could just be aftermarket.
Thanks again for your input.
Damon
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02-03-2012, 05:09 PM
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Maybe a Butler? Go to the Arntz/Butler forum and read up a bit. Most had a black door handle in the center of the door. I would be surprised if it had a 351 and Tremec though.
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02-03-2012, 05:21 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomads2000
Thanks guys. It's for sale and I'm looking at it with a friend shortly. I'll post pictures and hopefully we can solve the mystery. The engine is out of it so I can get a clear shot of the engine back, interior, ladder frame etc.
I think it's a little bit older. The one quirk that stuck out to me was the interior door panel had a modern/normal door handle, not the standard rear edge latch. Any thoughts? Of course, that could just be aftermarket.
Thanks again for your input.
Damon
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Pictures of the dash, door handles, trunk inside and out.
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02-06-2012, 09:58 AM
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Pictures of the mystery cobra
Here you go guys. See if you can figure it out.
351 Windsor (not cleveland as originally suspected).
Ladder frame
fiberglass foot wells
"regular" door handles in the door
I passed on the car, too much seemed to be a mystery and just not quite right but I'm still interested in the origin.
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02-06-2012, 11:26 AM
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03-29-2012, 07:35 PM
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It's a Butler
Did it have an engine fire or something? Doesn't look that great in there...
Definitely looks like a Butler. Could be an Arntz but it's sure got alot of Butler pieces on it, so I doubt it. Chassis number (or lack of) would tell you for sure.
Is it still for sale? Where is it?
Jason
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03-29-2012, 09:15 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Butler Racing/427 side oiler
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Yup Looks a ton like my Butler. Check out my gallery or drop me a line if you want
heathk@shaw.ca
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03-30-2012, 08:59 AM
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Location: West Linn,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #684, 428 FE, TKO600
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Jason:
What looks like fire damage in Bob's retouched photos is just the artifacts introduced by purposely over-processing the images to make the detail stand out. The original photos don't show any signs of fire.
Bob:
Could this be the elusive ERA00000001 barn find? ):-)
DonC
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03-30-2012, 02:02 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Werk77 289FIA
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...how much want the seller for "it"?
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03-30-2012, 06:01 PM
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This post is almost 2 months old and the original poster never replied or came back.
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04-02-2012, 07:23 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nomads2000
Here is what I know:
Black with purple stripes
351 Cleveland motor
ladder frame
5 bolt wheels
Jaguar rear end
Tremec 5 speed
Possible Vin starts with "BR".
Help? Anyone have any insight into this mystery car?
Thanks, Damon
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That narrows it down to about 20 manufacturers.
Post some pix - dash, front, rear, side, engine compartment (showing footboxes).
Your pal,
Meat.
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04-02-2012, 08:15 PM
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Hello, The car in question belongs to me. It has been at my shop in a storage room for some time now. I finished up another project for a customer early and decided to start on this one and get it back on the road. We should be getting the engine back from the rebulider this week (stroked 351w, ported & polished heads, cam, roller rockers etc...) I do not have any history on the car and it came to us just as it is in the photos. I do have all the parts that are not on the car. I would greatly appreciate any info you guys might have on who made it and what its worth. here are some better pics I took today.
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04-03-2012, 07:38 AM
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"BRI" would make it a Butler Racing Cobra.
Your pal,
Meat.
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04-24-2012, 09:55 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Butler Racing/427 side oiler
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where did you find that number? in picture 5?
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