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Old 04-01-2012, 10:04 AM
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Default One for the Historybuffs- Lost V-12

This showed up in an edit pack I received for proofing... a really amazing bit of history that should make the SOHC buffs salivate.

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...It was a project so secret that fewer than a dozen Ford Engine & Foundry engineers knew of its existence. In fact, all work on this engine was done after hours when the regular E&F staff went home
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Amazing they were able to build that literally under the nose of The Deuce without him being any the wiser!
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"sent to the scrapyard"....

Can you imagine what those engines would be worth now?
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This showed up in an edit pack I received for proofing... a really amazing bit of history that should make the SOHC buffs salivate.



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Oh you are a VERY bad man!

Perhaps this was to power the SEVENTH Daytona Coupe SAAC found a few April firsts ago?
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I was waiting for the April Fools joke.
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Shame . I heard of a similar fate to several Jaguar XJ13 V12 engines at the factory in the 1970s.
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Had this story come out on any day other than April 1st. Good one!
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You should be ashamed of yourself.
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excellent photochoping work, I must say
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I had one in an AFX Mustang in 65 I really did!
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Almost wet dream stuff.When I first started my kit the Cammer was my first choice of powerplants.A V12? where in the engine bay could you ever stuff 4 more cylinders.
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A V12? where in the engine bay could you ever stuff 4 more cylinders.
It was done in the 80's with what was called the Cobrari with a V12 Ferrari engine.

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Default Didn't the concept 90 done before GT40 show car, have a V12?

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made a 6.0 V12 48v 720 hp Quad Turbocharged engine. And of course the last Lincoln V-12 (Model K) delivered on January 24, 1940 had a V12 but a very low revving one. ironically though I think it inspired Ferrari to make his postwar car a V12. I think Ford could have made V12s at various times but were suffering a crisis of confidence, thinking we aren't a fancy enough company to have a V12.
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The last Lincoln V12 was 1948 not 1940.

I would think Enzo was more influenced by Alfa Romeo V12's, where he worked for many years, or Alfa Romeo rather than Ford.
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The last Lincoln V12 was 1948 not 1940.

I would think Enzo was more influenced by Alfa Romeo V12's, where he worked for many years, or Alfa Romeo rather than Ford.
Actuallly Enzo credited the Packard V12 staff cars of the US military for the interest in V12s.

I am not sure Alfa ever did a V12, they did do a "Bimotore" car with two six cylinders powering the chassis.
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I agree Packard would have been another influence on Enzo.

The Alfa was called the '12C' in 1936


The Bimotore, I believe, was a twin straight engines. One in front and one behind the driver.
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LOL, had me going for a minute
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