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04-01-2012, 10:04 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
Posts: 10,362
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One for the Historybuffs- Lost V-12
This showed up in an edit pack I received for proofing... a really amazing bit of history that should make the SOHC buffs salivate.
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...It was a project so secret that fewer than a dozen Ford Engine & Foundry engineers knew of its existence. In fact, all work on this engine was done after hours when the regular E&F staff went home
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(photo credit - Ford Archives)
Click on the thumb for the full article:
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04-01-2012, 10:47 AM
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Amazing they were able to build that literally under the nose of The Deuce without him being any the wiser!
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04-01-2012, 01:32 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Hillsboro,
OR
Cobra Make, Engine: Scratch built CSX style frame, Carbon fiber body, 393 Stroker, T-bird IRS, T5
Posts: 1,623
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"sent to the scrapyard"....
Can you imagine what those engines would be worth now?
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04-01-2012, 01:58 PM
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Senile Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Buffalo, NY USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance
Posts: 4,527
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Quote:
Originally Posted by computerworks
This showed up in an edit pack I received for proofing... a really amazing bit of history that should make the SOHC buffs salivate.
(photo credit - Ford Archives)
Click on the thumb for the full article:
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Oh you are a VERY bad man!
Perhaps this was to power the SEVENTH Daytona Coupe SAAC found a few April firsts ago? |
04-01-2012, 02:30 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Covington,
wa
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance # 532, 466 BB, 560HP
Posts: 3,027
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I was waiting for the April Fools joke.
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John Hall
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04-01-2012, 02:54 PM
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Shame . I heard of a similar fate to several Jaguar XJ13 V12 engines at the factory in the 1970s.
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04-01-2012, 06:22 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Concord Twp.,
OH
Cobra Make, Engine: Everett-Morrison 427SC 302 smallblock. 431 stroker in the works, tremec 3550
Posts: 200
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Had this story come out on any day other than April 1st. Good one!
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04-01-2012, 08:06 PM
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Super Moderator
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
Posts: 14,445
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You should be ashamed of yourself. 
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Jamo
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04-01-2012, 08:13 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: currently Cobra-less
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excellent photochoping work, I must say 
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when in doubt, floor it
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04-01-2012, 09:32 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Chester Springs,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 289 FIA #690, FRPP 427 Boss engine
Posts: 764
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You are a bad man...I love it!
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RCR GT40 SOLD to Fast 5
Kirkham #690 289 FIA
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04-01-2012, 09:53 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: California,
Ca
Cobra Make, Engine: NAF 289 Slabside Early Comp Car with 289 Webers and all the goodies. Cancelling the efforts of several Priuses
Posts: 6,592
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I had one in an AFX Mustang in 65 I really did!
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Rick
As you slide down the Banister of Life, may the splinters never be pointing the wrong way 
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04-02-2012, 05:28 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Cape Coral,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 2009 Solbra
Posts: 3,861
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posted on 1-11-2002 on Ford Muscle Forums
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Dan Wulff
I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
(No doubt, most will blame it on the donuts.)
You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.
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04-03-2012, 05:58 AM
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Location: Windham,,
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Almost wet dream stuff.When I first started my kit the Cammer was my first choice of powerplants.A V12? where in the engine bay could you ever stuff 4 more cylinders.
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04-03-2012, 07:47 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX2321
Posts: 1,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mdross1
A V12? where in the engine bay could you ever stuff 4 more cylinders.
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It was done in the 80's with what was called the Cobrari with a V12 Ferrari engine.
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04-03-2012, 11:49 AM
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Stolen Avitar
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Brunswick,
GA
Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 1311 428PI
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CW, You funny GI!!
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04-03-2012, 01:27 PM
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Location: Riverside CA,
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Didn't the concept 90 done before GT40 show car, have a V12?
I think it did.Ford
made a 6.0 V12 48v 720 hp Quad Turbocharged engine. And of course the last Lincoln V-12 (Model K) delivered on January 24, 1940 had a V12 but a very low revving one. ironically though I think it inspired Ferrari to make his postwar car a V12. I think Ford could have made V12s at various times but were suffering a crisis of confidence, thinking we aren't a fancy enough company to have a V12.
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04-03-2012, 03:34 PM
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The last Lincoln V12 was 1948 not 1940.
I would think Enzo was more influenced by Alfa Romeo V12's, where he worked for many years, or Alfa Romeo rather than Ford.  |
04-03-2012, 04:42 PM
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Senile Club Cobra Member
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Location: Buffalo, NY USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance
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Quote:
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The last Lincoln V12 was 1948 not 1940.
I would think Enzo was more influenced by Alfa Romeo V12's, where he worked for many years, or Alfa Romeo rather than Ford. |
Actuallly Enzo credited the Packard V12 staff cars of the US military for the interest in V12s.
I am not sure Alfa ever did a V12, they did do a "Bimotore" car with two six cylinders powering the chassis. |
04-03-2012, 05:08 PM
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I agree Packard would have been another influence on Enzo.
The Alfa was called the '12C' in 1936
The Bimotore, I believe, was a twin straight engines. One in front and one behind the driver.
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04-03-2012, 05:14 PM
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LOL, had me going for a minute
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