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04-20-2012, 03:11 PM
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10 Most Expensive Collector Cars: CSX3015
10 Most Expensive Collector Cars: CSX3015
" At left, and topping Barrett-Jackson’s list, a 1966 Shelby Cobra 427 Super Snake. Barrett-Jackson calls this car “the Cobra to end all Cobras.” This CSX 3015 is one of two Super Snake Cobras built and the one built for auto design icon Carroll Shelby. It sold for $5.5 million at Scottsdale in 2007. "
10 of the most expensive collector cars - Slide Show - MarketWatch
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04-20-2012, 03:47 PM
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Aha. Stirring the pot, eh? You are throwing live bait at the trolls who believe this car and the Cosby car are "fakes." But, wait, maybe this time they will offer up some facts to support their claims? Nah.
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04-20-2012, 04:00 PM
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Might want to clarify that these are 10 of the most expensive cars, not 'THE' 10 most expensive cars. In fact, CSX3015 doesn't even make it in the top ten.
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04-20-2012, 04:30 PM
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This is Barret-Jackson's 10 most expensive cars. The last Daytona Coupe went for 7.25 million and that is chump change next to a Ferrari 250GTO that will go north of 30 million.
For the record I'd rather have the Daytona Coupe.
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04-20-2012, 04:42 PM
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this is barret-jackson's 10 most expensive cars. The last daytona coupe went for 7.25 million and that is chump change next to a ferrari 250gto that will go north of 30 million.
For the record i'd rather have the daytona coupe.
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me too
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04-20-2012, 07:34 PM
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I don't know if this has been posted here before .
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04-21-2012, 03:53 AM
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I see Shelby and Earl both are repeat offenders on the list.
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04-21-2012, 04:05 AM
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Thanks for sharing, very interesting.
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04-21-2012, 04:30 AM
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Don't know about you guys but
Don If I was to look at one of the 10 most expensive car with great history, It would be the one and only red #198 car that was owned and driven by Dick Smith. I don't think anyone has put a real valve on this car. With the history it has, this car is worth more than a paxton cobra and about equal valve of a Daytona coupe. GT-40's would be in the ball park except for the J car. Rick L. Ps 198 is almost all orginial alot of the others have been restored to original. Paint repairs, and nose repair are all that was done to 198 with 50 years of racing. Even the orginial motor is back in it at SAAC 31 in VIR. Not alot of cars can say this.
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04-21-2012, 05:56 AM
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Oh the cars we could own if money were not an issue.Quite certain I appreciate mine more than if money were not an issue.Got to wipe up the drool.
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04-21-2012, 07:17 AM
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Don If I was to look at one of the 10 most expensive car with great history, It would be the one and only red #198 car that was owned and driven by Dick Smith. I don't think anyone has put a real valve on this car. With the history it has, this car is worth more than a paxton cobra and about equal valve of a Daytona coupe. GT-40's would be in the ball park except for the J car. Rick L. Ps 198 is almost all orginial alot of the others have been restored to original. Paint repairs, and nose repair are all that was done to 198 with 50 years of racing. Even the orginial motor is back in it at SAAC 31 in VIR. Not alot of cars can say this.
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CSX3035 is a great car, but I would disagree with the stated condition and value. Rick.
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There's not much under the hood, in the interior or under the trunk that is original... but that comes with being a real live race car for decades.
It's a great car but not in this league of value.
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04-21-2012, 09:07 AM
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Don If I was to look at one of the 10 most expensive car with great history, It would be the one and only red #198 car that was owned and driven by Dick Smith. I don't think anyone has put a real valve on this car. With the history it has, this car is worth more than a paxton cobra and about equal valve of a Daytona coupe. GT-40's would be in the ball park except for the J car. Rick L. Ps 198 is almost all orginial alot of the others have been restored to original. Paint repairs, and nose repair are all that was done to 198 with 50 years of racing. Even the orginial motor is back in it at SAAC 31 in VIR. Not alot of cars can say this.
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The value of this car dropped like a brick after it was pushed into the weeds at SAAC31 by some old dude w/ a beard.
Dick was a great driver and quite the gentleman. He is sorely missed.
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04-21-2012, 09:47 AM
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The Barrett Jackson data/specs regarding CSX 3015 for their June 22-24 Orange County CA Auction:
1966 SHELBY COBRA 427 Lot 1301 | Barrett-Jackson Auction Company
Note the Sale Type is listed as " NO RESERVE " ?
When the various auction companies list their Sale Price, wonder if their is consistency for including the Buyer's Commission.
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04-21-2012, 10:10 AM
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The value of this car dropped like a brick after it was pushed into the weeds at SAAC31 by some old dude w/ a beard.
Dick was a great driver and quite the gentleman. He is sorely missed.
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I had a ringside seat for that "event" at SAAC 31,watched the whole thing happen as I was not too far behind Dick at the time....he joked about it afterwards!!!!!!!!!!
Agree,you be hard pressed to find a nicer guy,heck of a driver even at his age then, and for sure, a gentleman in every way....
Rick: I would be very skeptical the the original engine was in the car at SAAC 31, I'm betting the original engine has been long gone......with the car/drivers extensive race history, those engines didn't last that long and were discarded once they were used up or blown......
David
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04-21-2012, 11:00 AM
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Had Dinner with him at SAAC 31
DAVID GAGNARD Dick was friend to everyone and a very sharp person. I was there when the car went trough tech at VIR and also at dinner with him and Heather. Head said that the motor in the car was the orignial one that Joe B had rebuilt years ago. He had blown up a couple of other motors and the big motor was too much for the car to handle. Dick said that the only body repairs done to the car where paint and the nose cone was damaged racing. I have no reason not to beleive him. I have picture of the car under side when it was in the FFR hauler. There have been some add on but the bottom of the car had 40+ of racing on the frame for sure. As far as mowwing the grass, I watched the whole thing happen. John M. was over to Dick right after the race and said he was so sorry for the adventure into the cow field. No damage was done to either car and Dick signed John banner at their camp. Class act both ways. Hope they don't let another Dodge with an novice driver in the historic race again. Every one was really lucky on the checking up on the end of the long straight.
I never asked but wonder where the motor that turned 198 went to? The original could also have sleeves in it to. He knew that the orignial motor made the car worth alot more than a replacement. The guy to ask would be Dick's engine builder Joe B. He is still building FE motors. He knows how to make them last and live for years. I got 7 years from my shelby before switching to a 482 stroker, same block and heads of 14 years. Same HVHP oil pump with a 100# spring. Have not hurt bottom end yet. There maybe something to running high pressure and volume. Rick L.
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04-21-2012, 03:23 PM
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Dick said that the only body repairs done to the car where paint and the nose cone was damaged racing.
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I wonder if someone forgot about Sebring 1968... "a Porsche slid into the Cobra and caused it to hit a post backwards. The post ruptured the fuel tank, causing a fire which damaged the rear portion of the car's bodywork" ...quoted from the 4th edition of the World Registry.
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04-21-2012, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Don
The Barrett Jackson data/specs regarding CSX 3015 for their June 22-24 Orange County CA Auction:
1966 SHELBY COBRA 427 Lot 1301 | Barrett-Jackson Auction Company
Note the Sale Type is listed as " NO RESERVE " ?
When the various auction companies list their Sale Price, wonder if their is consistency for including the Buyer's Commission.
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CSX3015 was sold at BJ in Scottsdale in 2007, not Orange County. Yes, it was sold at no reserve.
Most auction companies list their results including the buyer's fees.
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04-21-2012, 05:23 PM
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Sorry guys, this is the most expensive:
Sold between $30 and $40 million privately.
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04-21-2012, 10:25 PM
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CSX3015 was sold at BJ in Scottsdale in 2007, not Orange County. Yes, it was sold at no reserve.
Most auction companies list their results including the buyer's fees.
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Orange County is for the 2012 Auction, per the BJ web site
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04-22-2012, 02:25 AM
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Dick still had the original motor...some sleeves in it. Part of a few motors used in rotation. He added more than a few things electronically (gauges, relays, etc.) as time went on...the dash isn't too original. The turkey pan was more rounded and probably came from a GT40. The nose, and a few dings over the years...the rear fire damage...nothing was really really bad per Dick. Funny bumpers added after the first year or so...before Dick bought it. The unusual double outlet side pipes were just used for the street...still had the originals.
Great racing history...not too many 427s surpassed it (if any, come to think about it).
Joe Boghosian built/rebuilt all of the motors for it for decades. Gordon Levy refreshed it when he lived here in Fresno. Ken Christiansen kept it running for the last decade or so.
The car was basically kept as raced...even to the point of causing a really stupid moronic idiot judge from SCCA to take points away at a concours because the original spare wheel looked so dirty and old.
Most important thing about the car? Dick hisownself. Watched him blow the oil cooler lines (and the motor) at the Historics a few years ago staying ahead of a GT40...caused him and the Fliptop to spin a few times (no damage to either thanksbetogod). Joe gave him some hell for doing that.
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