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06-01-2012, 09:46 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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In that sense, correct. They painted the Comp or S/C to order...explaining the unique variety of strange colors on original-owned cars....Gold, Buick Silver, Orange, Sapphire Blue, etc.
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06-01-2012, 03:53 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: South St Paul,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #1962, 427 SO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PSB
Most street cars had 428 engines, where the S/Cs had 427 SOs.
Pete
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Only about 100 of them did.
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06-01-2012, 04:53 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Holderness, NH, US of A,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4772 old iron FE
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Speedometer 160 mph CW street, 180 mph CCW comps. This is fun!
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06-01-2012, 05:45 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Little Rock area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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May be wrong on this but I don't think the S/C cars had map pockets in the doors like the Street Roadsters. Most Street Roadsters with 427s were center oilers. Were most S/C cars side oilers - that seems to be the implication?
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06-01-2012, 07:29 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Meriden,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427 SC s/n 718, 428 FE
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As most of the replicas are now, I think many original Cobras were a compromise. Very seldom have I seen a pure street or pure S/C Cobras, although some restorations have reverted to one or the other. If I recall correctly, reports of dealers adding, removing, or changing certain parts from the Shelby 427 Cobras was the norm. The SAAC guys have more info on this subject I'm sure. I love the way my own ERA is outfitted, a combination Street-S/C. I wouldn't have it any other way.
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06-01-2012, 08:29 PM
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Speedo
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Originally Posted by mickmate
Speedometer 160 mph CW street, 180 mph CCW comps. This is fun!
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My street car has a 180 MPH clock wise speedo
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06-01-2012, 08:38 PM
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Thanks Bruce. I have seen 160's, 180's, CW and CCW's in the street cars. I wonder what was most common, surely an availability problem for high winding speedos back in the day.
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06-01-2012, 08:45 PM
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Speedo's
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Originally Posted by mickmate
Thanks Bruce. I have seen 160's, 180's, CW and CCW's in the street cars. I wonder what was most common, surely an availability problem for high winding speedos back in the day.
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Nick,
My car was an early 427, I suspect that later cars took some liberties with parts since the cars were not selling and Ford was pressuring Shelby to move them at the lowest cost possible Sunburst wheels, 428 engines etc.
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06-01-2012, 08:48 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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SC's and Comp cars had diff coolers.
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06-01-2012, 09:06 PM
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Diff Coolers
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Originally Posted by REAL 1
SC's and Comp cars had diff coolers.
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Not stock, that was an option, SC's did not even come with rear sway bars as delivered.
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06-02-2012, 04:13 AM
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Street or SC cars
What about wet sump verses dry sump setups?? I know the oil filler was in the r/s fender with a small cap. I thought there was a couple of different steering ratios. What about brake ducts for rearend? Wild about wheels had a comp car in red. Rick Ps SC could be
supercharged
super cobra
silly car
Shelbys Crazy
etc,....
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06-02-2012, 04:19 AM
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...certainly not "supercharged"
Dry Sump was an option on the Comp cars, and only a handful were ever built that way.
Comp and S/C did have a set of 'glas cooling ducts for the rear brakes.
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06-02-2012, 05:12 AM
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Street had soft tops, grease gun, toolkit and jack. I wonder if the SC's came with the toolkit. Dry sumps on two cars I have seen was an eclectic collection of parts a lot of which were fabricated to suit and also borrowed from the GT40 parts bins.
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06-02-2012, 05:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mickmate
I wonder if the SC's came with the toolkit.
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I have found that S/C's did come with "a" toolkit...may not have been identical to the AC wrap-kit, though.
Lack of consistency on S/C's is understandable.
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06-02-2012, 05:43 AM
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CSX 3183 came with a 180 speedo, normal sweep
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06-02-2012, 06:31 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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Nice.........
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06-02-2012, 08:34 AM
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Great thread - really interesting stuff. I've been aware of the major differences, but a good few of the details posted here I never knew.
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06-02-2012, 11:17 AM
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Hello All,
Here is a link to the Sports Car Graphic dual road test of both the Street Cobra and the SC race version with detailed information of the differences from Novenber 1965.
Sports Car Graphic, November 1965, Double Cobra test
Thanks to the guys at ERA, I sent the original magazine to them and they copied it, returned it and posted the article on their web site.
Enjoy,
Tony R.
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06-02-2012, 01:00 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 427 S/C, Twin Paxton 511 FE
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Awesome thread!
Nice to people coming together
Hey Ron, aside from a FAQ, how about a 'Library of Skulls' like on Land of the Lost. When someone seeks the truth, like features of a S/C, Street, 289, production numbers, OE, etc, one could go to the subforum with such succinct write ups with pics?
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06-02-2012, 02:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodneym
Awesome thread!
Nice to people coming together
Hey Ron, aside from a FAQ, how about a 'Library of Skulls' like on Land of the Lost. When someone seeks the truth, like features of a S/C, Street, 289, production numbers, OE, etc, one could go to the subforum with such succinct write ups with pics?
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Or, they could buy a Registry
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