Press release :shelby automobiles sued

[twobjshelbys]

What do you think of your car? I like the 7000s better. Just like the hips. But a friend has an original CSX2000 slab side with a 260 that really rocks.

[rpatton3]

I checked and CSX 6163 is sold. It is solid red.

[GT350Mike]

It's a little late in the night for me to throw in my story (it's long and drawn out) but for what it's worth, I took delivery of my CSX from Becker in November 2011 and I have a mixed opinion about the transaction. Let's just say Becker has ample room for improvement, especially in the area of taking care of the customer after the sale.

[MRGEORGE077]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Yeah, we've noticed that you have blasted this all over. So precisely what horse do you have in this race?

I bought and sold a Shelby CSX. I bought it because I loved it and sold it because my wife hated it.

But you seem to have a burr under your saddle. Come clean.

Right now you're heading to the top of people I truly hope I never meet. Don't worry, we'll never be friends.

Ck your PM

[dcdoug]

I guess I'll chime in that I had the opposite experience with Stephen Becker.

I took delivery in July 2009 and had a great pre- and post-sales experience. Stephen's installers were available and responsive on the few questions I had a few months after taking delivery of the car and Stephen also helped me get a few warranty issues sorted out with SAI. I've heard from others in my local club that SAI isn't always particularly responsive to questions, let along warranty replacement items.

I do know that Stephen and Carroll did buy/sell each other some 60's mustangs so there could have been other reasons for legal exchanges between the two that have nothing to do with Shelby dealership matters.

Anyway, my $.02.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by MRGEORGE077

Ck your PM

I did, and replied, and I think we could share a beer some time after all!!!

Good luck with your car.

[kayakjack]

In paragraph 26 of the lawsuit it says...

"Relying on Defendant SAI’s promise of a 2011 delivery, Plaintiff pre-sold all five Anniversary Cars to buyers, repeating to them the promise that the Anniversary Cars would be available by Dec. 11, 2011.."

It goes on to say that four of these cars are not yet delivered. They were sold to customers.

So, are there well meaning customers who have put up $ for a car who have not gotten them?

Who knows what all the facts are. My main concern is for any folks who have put up money for a car and have no car or their money. Anybody know who these customers are (if there are any people in this boat)?

Jack

[MRGEORGE077]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

I did, and replied, and I think we could share a beer some time after all!!!

Good luck with your car.

Thanks, Tony for all the help and advise, your the man!
George

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by MRGEORGE077

Thanks, Tony for all the help and advise, your the man!
George

You're welcome, but there is a lot of really good info on "Cars" here. For the others, he is running into some of the issues a lot of us have gone through, and he and everyone else calls it "sorting it out". It's frustrating to think you have to do that, and honestly, I think dealer support in this area generally sucks unless you find, as it takes a little bit of research, to find the few who really know this business. And honestly, a lot of it depends, even when you go to a dealer or shop, of who the person (down to the name, DNA) of who does the work. I don't want to get into the names but there really are some really good folks here who know how to put one of these together. Do your research, take names, and they will bubble to the top. I wish I'd had the option of finding one or two of them but alas, mine was "done" (but not finished )

I wish George the best, and think he will get his finished and love it!!!

I miss mine

[bret a ewing]

Ordered CSX 4802 : Oct 2005
Promised : June 2006
Delivered : May 2008

[kayakjack]

Originally Posted by bret a ewing

Ordered CSX 4802 : Oct 2005
Promised : June 2006
Delivered : May 2008

Yuck. Those were 2 1/2 years you could (should) have been enjoying your car. If the CSX serial number is high on your requirements list I guess that is part of the game. I could never see myself putting a deposit down for an expensive item from an organization having a history of delivery problems. Even if you get your car (as you did), I would be sweating every minute wondering if my money was wasted. That is one of the reasons I purchased a used Superformance. I knew what I was getting. I could get it the same day I issued the check.

I would have no problems buying new from any of the established manufacturers. Superformance, ERA, Factory Five, Backdraft, etc. All excellent reputations. Not a hint of delivery problems. But there is something about dealing with Shelby stuff that gives me pause.

And with this particular issue/lawsuit - who know what the facts are? I do not care.

Jack

[bret a ewing]

Originally Posted by kayakjack

Yuck. Those were 2 1/2 years you could (should) have been enjoying your car. If the CSX serial number is high on your requirements list I guess that is part of the game. I could never see myself putting a deposit down for an expensive item from an organization having a history of delivery problems. Even if you get your car (as you did), I would be sweating every minute wondering if my money was wasted. That is one of the reasons I purchased a used Superformance. I knew what I was getting. I could get it the same day I issued the check.

I would have no problems buying new from any of the established manufacturers. Superformance, ERA, Factory Five, Backdraft, etc. All excellent reputations. Not a hint of delivery problems. But there is something about dealing with Shelby stuff that gives me pause.

And with this particular issue/lawsuit - who know what the facts are? I do not care.

Jack

Jack,

Sure, there was sweating and swearing, luckely we had Bill Malone in our corner keeping us up to date on the now defunct "Cobra Owners Forum".

Updates and pictures kept us off the ledge..............

CSX's were also much less expensive at the time, $39,900 for a fully finished painted roller. I believe the deposit was $10k.
Better risk/reward ratio, would not do again.

[JWilly]

I was at the Vegas, SAI facility about 2.25 years ago and there were 3 Cobras in the shop being assembled. I was there last March and there were 6 or 7 being assembled in the shop (I believe one was aluminum bodied). I thought they were doing great???? i seem to remember there being some point in there where they were not taking new orders? All of this is kinda strange.

[65SC]

Originally Posted by bret a ewing

Jack,

Sure, there was sweating and swearing, luckely we had Bill Malone in our corner keeping us up to date on the now defunct "Cobra Owners Forum".

Updates and pictures kept us off the ledge..............

CSX's were also much less expensive at the time, $39,900 for a fully finished painted roller. I believe the deposit was $10k.
Better risk/reward ratio, would not do again.

Bill was a big help when I bought a CSX. Pick your dealer carefully.

[GT350Mike]

Originally Posted by JWilly

I was at the Vegas, SAI facility about 2.25 years ago and there were 3 Cobras in the shop being assembled. I was there last March and there were 6 or 7 being assembled in the shop (I believe one was aluminum bodied). I thought they were doing great???? i seem to remember there being some point in there where they were not taking new orders? All of this is kinda strange.

My wife and I visited SAI in July and there was five or six Cobras around, maybe more so they're staying busy. The problem facing SAI has been the demand for the cars has exceeded the supply so that played a significant part of the price increases. The other problem has been getting parts from vendors, which have either gone out of business or have discontinued parts that were used on the Cobras. Obviously they’ve sourced other suppliers or they wouldn’t be shipping cars today.

Personally, I’m disappointed with all of the drama tied to the Cobras. What should be an exciting experience, as it has for some like Doug, has turned into a wretched event for others. Excluding the two issues I had with Becker (which irritated the pi$$ out of me), my transaction was relatively painless. For those who are experiencing a delay in taking delivery of your CSX, it will happen but the question is how long will you have to wait?

[RichardCSX6000]

My CSX 6046 was ordered April 2010, I ordered a Shelby engine CSX 1006 May 2010. The car arrived at the Dealer March 2011, the engine arrived Feb 2011. I was one of the lucky ones although it seemed forever to me! I had to pay the entire balance due before Shelby would complete the build. I have had no problems with the car so I can not speak for service issues.

[Tutosnake]

My car was ready to leave Las Vegas 13 months after I placed my deposit. I too had to pay the full balance BEFORE THE CAR LEFT HI-TECH!! That was somewhat unnerving, but I have to admit it all worked out really well. I found out that 50% of that wait period is spent doing nothing. It takes 6 MONTHS from the moment you place an order (pay your deposit) to the moment HI-TECH picks up the first screw on your car. At least my AD warned me from day #1, and that help the angst (somewhat ).
I would do it again...

[MRGEORGE077]

Originally Posted by Tutosnake

My car was ready to leave Las Vegas 13 months after I placed my deposit. I too had to pay the full balance BEFORE THE CAR LEFT HI-TECH!! That was somewhat unnerving, but I have to admit it all worked out really well. I found out that 50% of that wait period is spent doing nothing. It takes 6 MONTHS from the moment you place an order (pay your deposit) to the moment HI-TECH picks up the first screw on your car. At least my AD warned me from day #1, and that help the angst (somewhat ).
I would do it again...

You have that right, if they would tell you up front, Ha! its going to be a year, 18 months, maybe 2 years before you have your car, anyone can live with that or not do the deal. But for gods sake be up front with the customer. By the way who is High Tech? George

[rodneym]

Originally Posted by MRGEORGE077

?.....By the way who is High Tech? George

oh, boy.
Who is gonna break it to mrgeorge?

[65SC]

Originally Posted by MRGEORGE077

You have that right, if they would tell you up front, Ha! its going to be a year, 18 months, maybe 2 years before you have your car, anyone can live with that or not do the deal. But for gods sake be up front with the customer. By the way who is High Tech? George

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