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12-27-2012, 03:40 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: West Chester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #795 427 S/C completed Jan. '14 - '68 FE 427 side oiler
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Clear bra patterns
One thing I want to do before getting my car on the road is to have clear film put on the front, doors and rear fenders. I know there is a pattern for a Superformance but have not come across anything for an ERA 427. Also, all the threads on this topic are very old so thought I'd put it out there again. I've found an installer with a great reputation and I'll be going to look at some of his work - including a Superformance that he did. Anyone know of any pattern for an ERA or any other ideas? The film stretches a bit to conform to curves, etc, so we're going to look at using the Superformance template for my ERA if the dimensions are not too far off.
Any experiences with this will be appreciated.
Regards,
Kevin
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12-27-2012, 08:37 PM
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Location: Elkton,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #2689 Roush 427R TKO 600
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Kevin,
I have the film on my SPF, works great except a little advice is have it go up higher than normal 2 or 3 inches would work. Especially where the fenders flare coming off the headlights seems to catch the most abuse. And on the inside of the fenders between the headlights and area thet dips down towards the grill opening!
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12-28-2012, 07:12 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: miami,
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Cobra Make, Engine: E-M Cobra Ford FE 427 w/ Webers 48 IDA
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Wildbill
Did you install it yourself and how hard was it?
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12-28-2012, 08:46 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: West Linn,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #684, 428 FE, TKO600
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Kevin:
I've had the clear bra product on my car since I got it 8 years ago. It's done a really good job of keeping the stone dings down. Over 50,000 miles and it's still going strong. A couple of really big stones have gotten through it but even then it's kept the size of the damage to a minimum.
Mine is installed on the nose (wraps completely and about 4 inches up), spats on the front of the rear fenders and along the top of the doors. I added my own strip 3 inches wide centered along the line of the top snaps to keep it from rubbing.
I used a company called Invincashield who had a pattern for ERA but I don't know if they're still around. I think they were in North Carolina. The product itself is made my 3M and they make it in two thicknesses. Go with the thickest you can find, probably around 4 or 8 mills.
You may well be able to find someone locally to install it since it has become a fairly common product. Check with any local exotic car clubs (Porsche, Ferrari etc.) to find someone local who installs it. Check their work if at all possible.
Do some digging on the web to see if anyone is making a pre-cut pattern and have it done professionally. I wouldn't call it a do it yourself project because of the compound curves of the Cobra body.
DonC
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12-28-2012, 10:42 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Burbs,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #472, Previous owner of ERA #677 427, ERA 289 FIA-USRRC Street
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I would really be interested in this as well.
Is it really obvious? It is a real toss up whether or not to alter the looks of the paint or risk a $$ paint from being damaged.
Thanks. Please let me know what you come up with...
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12-28-2012, 11:41 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft 874 solid red Roush 427 small block 515 hp
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I guess the Backdraft guys are way out of luck although it can be installed by dealer for $900.
I did not know about this until car was shipped. I was lucky enough to get the rear fender bulges covered at dealership.
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12-28-2012, 04:30 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rpatton3
I guess the Backdraft guys are way out of luck although it can be installed by dealer for $900.
I did not know about this until car was shipped. I was lucky enough to get the rear fender bulges covered at dealership.
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You can buy it for Backdraft here: Invisible Mask - Clear Bra Automotive Paint Protection, 3M Scotchgard, Carbon Fiber 3M Films
The real cost is the labor to install, that's how you get to $900 quick. In fact at $900 we lose a couple bucks
As for your ERA, if the car is in New Britski then have one of the elves call Attention to Detail in Middletown, CT. They have a pattern for ERA and the installer is mobile. You can schedule through Darren there at 860.343.9448
I know they have an ERA template because they used it on our cars years ago and would trim it to fit. It even had the hole cut out for the Cobra emblem they don't put on
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12-29-2012, 10:40 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Previous owner of SPF#1938, with a Keith Craft 496ci Genesis 427 side oiler, 667 FWHP, 633 FWTQ, 560 RWHP, 550 RWTQ.
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12-29-2012, 12:09 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA#520, Roush 427SR
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I have had mine on for over 5000 street and track miles with great success. It was fabricated and installed by Ultimate Shield in Orange, CA. [email]Sean@ultimateshield.com....Check out his web site. Even if you are not local he may be able to inform you of the varies products available. He does show room installations on Mercedes, Lambo's, etc. He has a computer model of a Cobra nose pattern that we tweek'd a little to allow him to trim back any excess material. From the computer the pattern was downloaded to a CNC cutting machine and out they came... I have it on the entire nose starting at the front edge of the hood cutout and wrapping all the down below the oil cooler. The rocker panels, rear fender spats and headlights. I should have done at least the tops of the doors for summer short sleeve arm protection. There are pros and cons to the material chooses. I have Wimbledon White Le Mans stripes and this product does not yellow. After hours in the SoCal sun there is no color change from the stripes on the adjacent hood. The only con, is the fact that you can scratch it and unlike paint it does not buff out.
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12-29-2012, 01:13 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft 874 solid red Roush 427 small block 515 hp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn
You can buy it for Backdraft here: Invisible Mask - Clear Bra Automotive Paint Protection, 3M Scotchgard, Carbon Fiber 3M Films
The real cost is the labor to install, that's how you get to $900 quick. In fact at $900 we lose a couple bucks
As for your ERA, if the car is in New Britski then have one of the elves call Attention to Detail in Middletown, CT. They have a pattern for ERA and the installer is mobile. You can schedule through Darren there at 860.343.9448
I know they have an ERA template because they used it on our cars years ago and would trim it to fit. It even had the hole cut out for the Cobra emblem they don't put on
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Thanks for information. It is now on my wish list.
Do you think a local vehicle wrap advertising company could install this?
They do local busses and a motorcycle gas decal from a photo on my old motorcycle. The BDR has more curves but I think I want to get this.
Best wishes for 2013!
Russell
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12-29-2012, 02:19 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA#520, Roush 427SR
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Sean does fantastic full body wraps. It is all about being able to work the material around the compound curves of a Cobra........If you bought it new I would check with the Brackdraft distributor for their experience..........The stuff works.
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12-29-2012, 02:40 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Hurricane Motorsports, 427w
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Quote:
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I have had mine on for over 5000 street and track miles with great success. It was fabricated and installed by Ultimate Shield in Orange, CA. [email]Sean@ultimateshield.com....Check out his web site. Even if you are not local he may be able to inform you of the varies products available. He does show room installations on Mercedes, Lambo's, etc. He has a computer model of a Cobra nose pattern that we tweek'd a little to allow him to trim back any excess material. From the computer the pattern was downloaded to a CNC cutting machine and out they came... I have it on the entire nose starting at the front edge of the hood cutout and wrapping all the down below the oil cooler. The rocker panels, rear fender spats and headlights. I should have done at least the tops of the doors for summer short sleeve arm protection. There are pros and cons to the material chooses. I have Wimbledon White Le Mans stripes and this product does not yellow. After hours in the SoCal sun there is no color change from the stripes on the adjacent hood. The only con, is the fact that you can scratch it and unlike paint it does not buff out.
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Rick, your link is to a different type of "Ultimate Shield".
Matt
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12-29-2012, 02:54 PM
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The hot link highlighting was done automatically by the server not by me........Kind of funny though.........
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12-29-2012, 03:03 PM
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Location: Little Rock area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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The only con, is the fact that you can scratch it and unlike paint it does not buff out.
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I've also noticed on my wife's new Toyota with front end vinyl that smashed bugs left on can eat into the surface. I'm hoping it will tend to oxidize slightly over time and lessen the damage.
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12-30-2012, 08:25 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Eastern Long Island,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance SPF2271
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I had the 3M done on my Lamborghini the day it was delivered and it worked great. I want to have this one on my SPF but haven't found anyone that can do it. Anyone know of a place on Long Island that does 3M for SPF cars?
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12-30-2012, 09:15 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #2689 Roush 427R TKO 600
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Mine was installed by the installer (Dennis Oltoff Racing, North Carolina) in 07 and almost 18,000 miles and track miles and some rough roads on cruises. No discoloration and realy need to look to see it. I point it out to people and they say that they diden't notice it. No marks on it yet just above it. I think it is Invisashield by 3 M, talk to Mark III on this site he can most likely point you in the right direction or call Dennis!
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12-31-2012, 01:56 PM
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Looking for some feedback from those of you that have clear film. I just went and looked at a Superformance with film installed as well as a few other cars. One thing that is noticeable to me is that the film itself has a bit of an orange peel - not unlike a lot of car finishes on "normal" cars. Looking closely, there were also a few visible lines where the film had been stretched or put down and then pulled up to reposition (both necessary for installation, I'm sure). These things are very subtle and are not noticeable from several feet away, but are visible when looking closely. The installer said that all films have the orange peel effect to some degree and a few minor imperfections (lines) are unavoidable, particularly on a car as curvy as the Cobra. This is 3M film that I was looking at.
Does this jive with what you have on your cars? I'm just trying to determine that this installer is as good as his reputation. I think he's telling me straight.
Regards,
Kevin
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01-01-2013, 07:42 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: West Coast Cobra/427
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Kevin:
I know it might be a bit of drive for you, but I will recommend this outfit with my eyes close, they use the reputable film 3M and the work is impecable. The place is Sma's Window Tinting, Rte 59, Nanuet NY 845-623-3800.
I hope this helps. Here are 2 pictures of my car being spatted this past summer, including finished poroduct.
Cheers Happy New Year
Basque 1 (Lou)
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01-01-2013, 08:16 AM
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Just my two cents: Whether you use a precut kit or do it from scratch, you need to use someone with a lot of experience in applying shield thickness film, to compound curves such as the real swoopy front end of a cobra. I had mine custom done as a one-off, but even the real experienced guys had to redo several sections. If you are using a precut kit, you may want to think about some kind of preset price from your installers as well. Like someone else also pointed out, you should do spats on your rear wheel arches too. I went with the carbon fiber ones there, and am glad I did instead of just clearshield.
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01-01-2013, 08:49 AM
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Guys,
I found an installer who has great references and has been installing 3M film for 7 years. I was asking if some orange peel and a couple of stretch marks are inevitable. Can you see any of that on your cars if you look closely?
Thanks,
Kevin
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