Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 575 with Shelby Aluminum 427 Stroked to 468
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What does a new SPF car cost?
Ok, this is just a curiosity piece because I look from time to time on cobra country and ebay and CC of course. And yes, occasionally I do buy. I've owned 4 Shelby replicas since 2000, a shell valley, 2 SPF cars and 1 contemporary. I came across a 4 year old SPF on cobra country with 12,000 miles at $72,000 this week. The engine was a 427 small block rousch. My question is this, how much is a roller selling for?? I am thinking that it's around $40k brand spanking new. A Rousch 427 and TKO 600, installed, figure $20k? so call it a $60k car that is completely replicable from any SPF dealer. How is it an expectation to drive the car for 4 years, and sell it for $12k more than the cost of a new car??
Perhaps I'm totally mistaken in my estimates, could a new roller SPF car go for $60k? Does a fully done SPF car now sell for $80k? Curious if any fellow CC members can enlighten me.
With the couple small options that I wanted when I was shopping, the roller came in at over $60k. I'm guessing I could have got the price down about $5k from that, so $56k....roughly.
The drivetrain with a roush 427r would have been over $20k.
Add a couple more options, dealer/install, delivery, I would have been well Over $80k. It was about $15k more for a similar superformance compared to the backdraft after all was said and done.
So depending on options, yes, a new superformance roller can easily hit $60k and it can easily be over $80k with the drivetrain.
Mr. Muck should be able to tell us here what a new roller would cost?
At Carlisle the only SPF roller there was stickering over $60k as it sat. I believe the roller is now at $49,900 but again I am not speaking with any authority here as Time Machines can.
Mr. Muck should be able to tell us here what a new roller would cost?
At Carlisle the only SPF roller there was stickering over $60k as it sat. I believe the roller is now at $49,900 but again I am not speaking with any authority here as Time Machines can.
I wouldn't call this extensive research, but Hillbank has a basic MKIII roller starting at $50,000 and then "bell & whistles/whoop-dee-doo" version for $66,000.
Good thread. I too have been trying to figure out some of these figures.......and variances. (dont get me wrong... great product... but .........pricing.. here and there..)
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That seems extremely high for a Superformance, I would spend the little extra and get a Kirkham or CSX, ERA... I had an SPF which came no where near that price...
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My experience when I was looking was that if you took a Superformance or a Shelby roller and outfitted them with all of the same things, they were within $5K of each other. Oh, you want two screws holding on the hood instead of 1? Extra.
Kirkham aluminum cars are special and in a league of their own so don't try to compare glass to alloy. Alloy to ally the same "very similar" applies.
The difference might be 10K now but last I heard Kirkham had a big backlog and a price increase on the horizon.
P.S. You can price a roller at any of their web sites...
My experience when I was looking was that if you took a Superformance or a Shelby roller and outfitted them with all of the same things, they were within $5K of each other. Oh, you want two screws holding on the hood instead of 1? Extra.
Kirkham aluminum cars are special and in a league of their own so don't try to compare glass to alloy. Alloy to ally the same "very similar" applies.
The difference might be 10K now but last I heard Kirkham had a big backlog and a price increase on the horizon.
P.S. You can price a roller at any of their web sites...
A CSX roller sold on eBay in March for $69,995, so it looks there's probably still a healthy premium for a continuation car over the the Superformance.
....Does this 'roller pricing' change much when the new model year rolls onto the floors? Is this just like with major auto manufacturers and you can pick up a NEW last year model for less?
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A CSX roller sold on eBay in March for $69,995, so it looks there's probably still a healthy premium for a continuation car over the the Superformance.
....Does this 'roller pricing' change much when the new model year rolls onto the floors? Is this just like with major auto manufacturers and you can pick up a NEW last year model for less?
Current list for a Mk III roller is $49,000. Add your choice of options. I can supply price sheets for anyone who is interested.
Costs and materials as well as insurance, shipping, etc. have bumped the price up. We would LOVE to be lower but reality sadly dictates otherwise.
And a composite CSX is WAY more than 5K different from an SPF.
Also keep in mind some of the standard equipment SPF comes with such as heater/defroster/fresh air ducts that are optional on some other chassis' as well as the exhaust and headers etc. Are we the cheapest? No. Is there value for the price? Well only the buyer can decide but so far thousands of people have chosen Superformance.
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You have just found the beauty and magic of Superformances!!!!!! The car for all practical purposes never changes, a 10 year old one looks identicle to a new one. Its not like one has anit-lock brakes, navigation etc. Same for Backdraft. Buy a Superformance and keep for 5 years and you will sell for a profit. Dont aske me how I know, LOL. The car does not change but the price increases every 12-18 months, before long a new one is 15-20K more than what you paid for one new.
I have made money on very new cobra I bought and driven it for years. This includes backdraft and superformance. Other builds do not enjoy this same return on investmnt because there are to many variables in the build. Superformance is like Rolex it is perceived to be the "best" by the first time buyers (in my opinion it was the best i ever had but cost more than BDR which is the best at their price point).
Everyone wants a 427 be it big or small block, everyone loves Roush, no comment, so if you build to sell one day build what sells now and you will be a happy seller.
Guess what, there is no law saying you cant MAKE money on a car you sell. The best selling combination right now and for 2-3 years has been a superformance with a roush 427. .
I was surprised when I sold mine. 95% of callers were in their late 60's. Most 30-50 year old dont have the $$. At times I wonder if the market will be saturated with cobras. 1965 was 48 years ago, the last two generations aren't into hot rods. Even car shows are swamped with old white guys 50 lbs over weight or using a walker. Where is this hobby going?
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These are great comments, I think anyone paying $60k for a SPF roller is insane. I don't want to be the guy remembering the good old days when the SPF roller was $37.5k but my guess is that the company is selling far fewer of them these days, so they cut supply back. THey were up to the 1100 series in 2001, and now they're in the 3600 range? I recall in the mid 2000s (years) they were making 4-600 per year (just a guess) and maybe now they can only really find demand for 200-300 per year. I remember on barrett jackson they were selling a SPF brock for something ridiculous like $200+K
That said, the SPF cars do have great resale, but some of these price tags seem like nose bleed territory to me. Having owned SPF 1118 and 1005, i can attest that there is great value, but in the high 30s low 40s for a mid 2000 vintage and not $72k. I've seen the all aluminum kirkhams sell for $95k to 105k with the aluminum sideoilers. The gap between 95k and 80k to me, just seems like a crazy comparison, but 95k is a uniquely found used kirkham and the spf is new.
I think anyone paying $60k for a SPF roller is insane.
There's a saying "a rising tide lifts all boats." The economy is getting better, the stock market is at historical highs, interest rates at historical lows, Cobra manufacturers are raising their prices and used Cobras appear to be selling quite rapidly on Cobra Country.
I've even seen dealers like Vintage, and more recently Stephen Becker, looking for used Cobras to buy, sell and/or consign.
So now I'm curious: What is the current price for a brand new ERA Cobra replica in turnkey-minus form, equipped exactly like a base Superformance "roller"?
SPF and ERA are the closest/most direct competitors in today's market, IMO.
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