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06-13-2013, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by lippy
... I think my order would be Kirkham, then ERA, and then CSX. BTW, Brent at B2 is building me an all-aluminum (Pond block) 427/482 solid roller FE. I considered FastEFI 2.0 but ultimately went with a carb.
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 I would love a Alu Kirkham ... even a roller for $ 40-50'
Kirkham or CSX are way over $ 100'  |
06-13-2013, 12:21 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Emurph -- for a new ERA, CSX, or KMS you will have to more than double your allotted cash outlay (and that's assuming you have ERA do all the work and you don't do it yourself). I agree with henrik, go with a BDR.
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06-13-2013, 12:22 PM
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Location: BRADENTON,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KIRKHAM 427 S/C, SHELBY 427 ALUM. STROKER
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Emurph: where are you located ?
From everything you have posted here, I'd say get a used Backdraft, they are available in your price range. Henrik has pointed out some of the +'s, here's a few more:
1 It's a factory built car, painted, upholstered, wired ! Everything but engine, tranny, and whatever accessories the owner wants to add.
2 Most have opted for the 17" wheels, which aside from better handling, gives you more tire choices.
3 Suspension is the well proven BMW 3 series, along with the 3series diff. which will handle most power applications.
I've completed and driven about 2 dozen of these with everything from a 302 to an original all iron 427, and everything in between.
For cruising I like the small block ford racing 347. Plenty of power, less noise and effort.
For best sports car overall feeling, the ford racing boss 347, 450 hp is hard to beat !
I may have something for you, depending on where you live, let me know.
Ted Radtke
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06-13-2013, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Emurph
But something in me wants a real 427 and I think the EFI would add to the reliability. Vintage has a few nice options. Curious why you went with the carb? Any advantage to the carb?
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 I'm also 6'2"
I changed from Holly 850 carb to dynatec EFI with Accell - but I looks like 4 webers  EFI is just more modern and efficient.
real 427 ... my Roush is a w351 stroked and bored to 427 - a real 427 is a big block... then you want Keith Craft FE... truck engine for lbs 2200 
try out different cars... big block FE is power from 0 rpm, nice sound and the "right" engine... but expensive in all ways... ( would be my choice )
W351 /427 will give you right to put 427 on the fender The new 302 is... modern |
06-13-2013, 12:49 PM
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Great info. Thanks. I'm in central pa near Harrisburg. The BDR has a BMW differential? It can handle the power options available? Wow!
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06-13-2013, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Emurph
The BDR has a BMW differential? It can handle the power options available? Wow!
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Yes, but I'm not sure why some people don't or can't understand that a BMW is a performance car, made in both 2-door and 4-door and puts forth a ton of power. And is an excellent track car. |
06-13-2013, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Emurph
Great info. Thanks. I'm in central pa near Harrisburg. The BDR has a BMW differential? It can handle the power options available? Wow!
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Backdraft has BMW M E36 brakes, suspension +++ and is like driving a very short BMW M3 with way too much power... almost a gocart with perfect weight ratio.
For me the BMW set up was a significant factor... muct better handling ( call Jay at Vintage)
unless you put slicks on the monster the differential will hold ( it will spinn if you flip you toe  ) just make sure to buy proper tires... dont save a few $...
And now you should concentrate on reading some of the old threads... think about options, colour etc. enjoy |
06-13-2013, 01:07 PM
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Before I dropped $15k on a crate motor that still needs additional parts, I would let blykins build me a custom motor. I'd get what I wanted and save money in the process. |
06-13-2013, 01:13 PM
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Before I dropped $15k on a crate motor that still needs additional parts, I would let blykins build me a custom motor. I'd get what I wanted and save money in the process.
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Tru Dat.
Hurricane, I forgot about them. The went out of business for a while and then they were brought back to life by new owners. I haven't heard anything negative about them. I'd check them out too.
BDR or a used SPF seem just about right in the sweet spot for your money. |
06-13-2013, 01:16 PM
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Tru Dat.
Hurricane, I forgot about them. The went out of business for a while and then they were brought back to life by new owners. I haven't heard anything negative about them. I'd check them out too.
BDR or a used SPF seem just about right in the sweet spot for your money. |
Yes, they came out with a "new Hurricane" that looked lovely, but I lost track of it all (I was kind of following them) and I don't remember what happened. That was about three or four years ago, I think. |
06-13-2013, 01:18 PM
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From what I've seen so far online I like the Backraft, vintage has a great site and I am 6'2" so a little extra leg room might be nice? I saw the Coyote engine option which I thought was really cool. And would sure be trouble free. But something in me wants a real 427 and I think the EFI would add to the reliability. Vintage has a few nice options.
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I've offered to others as well...if you are serious and are ever in the Philadelphia area (I'm 1.5 hours from Harrisburg), PM me or post up and I'll send you my number.
While I don't have a "real" 427, it's just a dart block 351w stroker 427, and it is not EFI, it is carb, you can still get a good idea if the Backdraft is a platform that you should really be interested in (and in comparison to others, especially given your price range, I see no reason why you would or could lose any interest....and if you do, I honestly don't think a Cobra replica or kit is something that you should bother doing any farther research).
I have considered going to EFI as well, but with the car tuned as is, the only thing I would really gain is a little MPG's. All driving manners are great with my car, it starts up right away, and it performs great.
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06-13-2013, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Before I dropped $15k on a crate motor that still needs additional parts, I would let blykins build me a custom motor. I'd get what I wanted and save money in the process.
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Agree with PT and Rodknock. As it is, buying one of these is merely the "entry fee". Where you go from there is something to be thought out carefully for several reasons including peace of mind, resale and most importantly, what you want after you have done the exhaustive homework. Personally, I would never go with a crate motor. Part of the journey is living with whoever is building your "perfect motor" and understanding what you have and that it is what you wanted. You also have that connection with the builder vs. standing in the return line at WalMart or Target when something goes wrong. 
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06-13-2013, 02:13 PM
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06-13-2013, 03:09 PM
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While I personally like those colors, Monterey Red and Lambo Orange, if you're thinking of resale value, you may want to stick with the "basic" blue w/white stripes, black, or variations of silver.
And definitely stay away from beige. A beige Cobra? Who would have thunk. |
06-13-2013, 03:45 PM
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I hear beige is the "new blue"
Sorry, but obviously partial to blue.
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06-13-2013, 03:49 PM
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It's kind of funny, but I always get the "thank god it's not blue with white stripes" comment (not that I have beige or lambo orange).
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06-13-2013, 04:00 PM
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It's kind of funny, but I always get the "thank god it's not blue with white stripes"...
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You and me both. |
06-13-2013, 04:08 PM
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Ouch.  I am comfortable in my own skin. 
Quote:
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It's kind of funny, but I always get the "thank god it's not blue with white stripes" comment (not that I have beige or lambo orange).
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06-13-2013, 04:21 PM
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Ouch. I am comfortable in my own skin. |
There's a reason it's (blue) popular. Good resale value for a buyer who's considering buying one.
It's my favorite car color. |
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