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06-22-2013, 03:50 AM
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Questions on Foot pedal spacing - options?
New member requesting your insight. I had an opportunity to drive the Hurricane Motorsports demo car this past week. Very nice car and great people.
Being able to drive it was very helpful in helping me determine what I need to look at going forward.
One thing that struck me is how small the pedals are and how close they are together. They come up from the floor on the Hurricane car.
My questions....
1) Is there any difference in foot well width between SPF, Backdraft or others?
2) Any advantage to having the pedals come from the floor or hang?
3) Does anybody have "custom spacing or size pedals"?
I don't use the dead pedal space on any of manual cars. Ideally I would like a slightly wider pedal especially for the clutch pedal and have it spaced out more to the left if this makes any sense.
I was just afraid I would push the wrong pedal. I am sure one would get used to this after a while but thought I would ask.
Thanks for feedback.
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06-22-2013, 05:02 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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It's a question best asked of Hurricane. I'm building an ERA with floor mounted pedals and they spaced the pedals out at my request. They basically span the entire foot box width. This was accomplished by custom bending the pedal levers - the brake and clutch fluid cylinders stay in the same place underfloor. I have squeezed in a side mounted dead pedal foot rest but I had to mount it a couple inches in front of the clutch pedal so it won't interfer.
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06-22-2013, 05:06 AM
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Here is a picture w/o the dead pedal in place.
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06-22-2013, 05:56 AM
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All of the brands have different spacing and configurations.
I can speak for Superformance in that we now have three footbox designs available depending upon your engine choice. These are:
"Small block"- Set up for any of the Windsor or GM LS engines. This is the widest footbox available in a Mark III
"Big block"- Set up for an "FE" or 385 series (429/460) engine. This is the "medium" design.
The "Quadcam" setup for the Modular motor family.
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06-22-2013, 07:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanEC
Here is a picture w/o the dead pedal in place.
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DanEc:
Thanks for the photo. This is what I was hoping to see. I like the width of the clutch and brake pedal as well.
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06-22-2013, 07:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark IV
All of the brands have different spacing and configurations.
I can speak for Superformance in that we now have three footbox designs available depending upon your engine choice. These are:
"Small block"- Set up for any of the Windsor or GM LS engines. This is the widest footbox available in a Mark III
"Big block"- Set up for an "FE" or 385 series (429/460) engine. This is the "medium" design.
The "Quadcam" setup for the Modular motor family.
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Mark IV
How would installing the coyote 5.0 impact the foot box space?
If the same size engine was placed in a SPF or a Backdraft is there a difference in foot box space?
Thanks
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06-22-2013, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MJJ
Mark IV
How would installing the coyote 5.0 impact the foot box space?
If the same size engine was placed in a SPF or a Backdraft is there a difference in foot box space?
Thanks
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The "Mod Motor" footbox is used for the Coyote. Due to the width of the engine "up top" it requires the narrower footbox to allow the installation. The steering shaft is routed somewhat differently from the small block setup.
I have no idea of the footbox configuration in a Backdraft, I presume Jay will chime in with the details.
The Superformance chassis has been designed to allow the different engines to fit the same frame with the footbox variety for best fit. It is only in the recent production that the three footbox designs have been available. Most early cars are the "big block" setup which allows any of the pushrod engines to fit.
The Superformance pedals can be field modified to move them side to side and are adjustable to some extent for "fore/aft" placement.
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06-22-2013, 07:49 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Tag, I have 12EEE feet -- after seven years of driving my car, always with the same skinny Nikes on, there is plenty of room for my feet. Your feet really get used to the otherwise cramped space. A pic of the "slightly spread" pedals on my ERA is in my gallery. Having my dead pedal, that is "normally" placed, is a huge benefit on longer drives, and for just resting your foot. You don't want to rest your foot on your clutch -- even lightly.
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06-22-2013, 08:03 AM
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yeah i choose my shoes wisely too, no hiking boot driving. i have a pair of Piloti's i drive with......
damn patrick those are some hooves you have there, i guess you have no issues in a strong wind
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06-22-2013, 08:14 AM
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damn Patrick ... I guess you have no issues in a strong wind?
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Only if I'm the one that's breaking it.
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06-22-2013, 08:43 AM
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Pedal Spacing & Proper Shoes
Like to comment on wearing proper shoes. Been driving for over 47 years w/o an accident. Wearing sandels one time created a scary experience. Coming up at a normal speed to cars stopped at a stop light. Went to apply the brake and my sandel hit the gas and brake at the same time. Realized in a split second, even if I found the brake there was no way I was going to stop. Luckly, I was able to direct the car over a 10" concrete curb. Resulting with damage to a front wheel and my stupidity. My advise, always wear proper driving shoes on these cars regardless of pedal spacing.
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06-22-2013, 09:30 AM
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"...proper driving shoes..."
Sadly, Piloti is no longer in business. I purchased a half-size too small from a distributor so I'll have well-shaped shoes for the next decade or so. After that... Heck, I'll be too old to drive one of these cars anyway.
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06-22-2013, 05:26 PM
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Piloti done huh...that's too bad. i guess i go Puma now...or i saw a nice pair...not really driving shoes but the right style...they were Pikolino's
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06-22-2013, 05:54 PM
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I found an inexpensive pair of Puma driving shoes at Nordstrom Rack of all places, I would say they are a "must have" for driving these cars.
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06-22-2013, 06:00 PM
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I have seen guys that need every inch of space they can get (either because of height or the fatness/length of their feet) and they choose wrestling shoes, like these: Wrestling Shoes I have to admit, some of them look very cool.
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06-22-2013, 06:51 PM
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I have seen guys that need every inch of space they can get (either because of height or the fatness/length of their feet) and they choose wrestling shoes, like these: Wrestling Shoes I have to admit, some of them look very cool.
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i was looking at some of those.....the high back is the bummer, i like the low profile sole and upper though.
i like these....
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06-22-2013, 07:42 PM
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Dang, I like those quite a bit.
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06-22-2013, 07:45 PM
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I Might Buy a Pair of Those...
The Pikolinos Fuencarral 6175 brings you the perfect adaptation of sport fusion. This men's athletic leisure shoe is set in a high quality leather upper and accented with mesh panels for breathability. Handcrafted by skilled Spanish artisans, this Pikolinos shoe is designed in a slip-on style. Paddded collar and heel, and uniquely cushioned footbed for all-day comfort and the segmented rubber outsole provides shock absorption and extra traction. Get out there in style in the Pikolinos Fuencarral. $165
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06-23-2013, 10:59 AM
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It's very important to really set up the controls to the driver. Pedals can typically be adjusted across to make optimum use of the space. Height of pedals makes a difference in how the pad meets your foot. The other consideration is whether the pedal pad is the pivoting type like originals so it follows your foot on the way down. Pedal height is typically adjusted with the clevises. Some people only like hung pedals some only like floor mounted. They can all be either adjusted or set up to best fit you which is I believe a safety consideration. Some pics and info here *** Brake ? Clutch Pedal bending tool NEEDED ***
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06-23-2013, 11:18 AM
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Dang, I like those quite a bit.
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yeah can't beat the style on that one..165.00 is a little high for a casual but it appears to be a leather insole too. and its slip on
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