5.0 coyote engine

[Larry Ruppert]

Hi my name is Larry and several years ago i purchased a cobra from street breasts. But due to things beyond my control i haven't worked on it much. The project has been adopted by my oldest son. My question is he wants to use the new 5.0 coyote engine. If something happens to engine does anyone know if this engine can be removed though the hood opening. thank you for any information.

[Cashburn]

I once read that a Street Beasts was 7/8ths scale. If that's at all true the Coyote will not like you very much.

[mdross1]

Never heard the 7/8ths scale can say for certain a 385 series big block fits in the bay and it went in from the top so that had to be someone blowing smoke.I'm certain engine dimensions are posted just have to search the web.

[DanEC]

I believe some of the FFR guys are installing Coyote engines. Should go through the hood opening. Whether it will clear the foot boxes is another thing.

Can't imagine a 7/8 scale Cobra. Hard enough getting into the thing when it's full size.

[mdross1]

Just found a site that shows the modular engine dimensions SOHC 27" wide DOHC 30" wide 460 27"wide.
In our car the 460 cleared but the left rear valve cover (aluminum) was very close so made slight body clearance just to be sure.

[ziggy75]

The original poster of this thread was my dad. This is a street beast cobra that he purchased back around 04. He ordered the whole kit and paid in full. He also received all parts. The frame was ordered with the intentions of using a 460 which is what is fitted at this moment. Unfortunately, my dad passed away earlier this year. I did not realize he posted this thread. Before passing, I promised my dad that I would get this thing together.

I am a little concerned about using the 460 that is in this engine. I know others have used one. I am just unsure about the weight. It is a 460 from a 69 Lincoln, C9VE. It is 100% original and uses a power steering pump that is integrated with the crank.

Ideally, I would like to drop in a 4.6 from a Mark VIII. That way I can utilize the engine, transmission, wiring, cooling fan.

Miss you dad..

[DanEC]

Sorry you lost your Dad.

The 385 series is heavy in all iron - it should track straight like an arrow. If you use it you might want to think about at least an aluminum intake and preferably aluminum heads. The crank-mounted power steering pump sounds odd but who knows? The 4.6 modular motor would reduce weight by somewhere around 200 lbs from the 460. You will have to research what has to be done to adapt motor mounts.

Lots of good help on this forum so welcome and good luck.

[ziggy75]

Thanks I appreciate it.

If I go the 460 route, I plan on putting an aluminum intake on it but I doubt I will put aluminum heads on it at this point. That is unless I find a good deal somewhere.

[redchief]

We just finished putting a 5 L Coyote engine in FF Type 65 (Daytona Coupe). The frame for motor mounts and foot boxes had to be modified to accept the engine. We have also developed a stack injection system for the combination and will be at SEMA. We can provide you installation dimensions for your case. Here is a photo of the FF Type 65. This is a great combination as the Coyote is much lighter than what you are considering. We got 435 hp out of a stock engine on an engine dyno. You can send me a message if you want more information.

[RallySnake]

Ziggy,

I believe that any engine can be put in any car. I once saw a 426 Hemi in an Austin Healey (Bugeye) Sprite! However, It comes down to time, skill and money. If you have 460 engine already and the frame is set up for that, then go with that. It will make the job doable in a reasonable time frame. The Coyote engine is a beautiful piece, but the overhead cams make it massive.

Check these specs against the Coyote's: http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/...ne-swap-guide/



It will take a lot of cutting and rearranging to get the big Coyote motor in there. I considered putting one in my Arntz, but when I got out the tape measure and checked the engine bay, I realized that I would have to cut my foot boxes and inner fenders a lot! I decided to stick with the small block. You need room for air to circulate too, you know. In the old days, you needed a big motor to make big horsepower. These days, with advanced cylinder heads from AFR or Trick Flow you can make the same kind of power with a 348 ci Windsor engine. If you don't have an engine and really want to get the car running quickly, that's the way I would go. Having to fabricate stuff takes so much more time. Another thing to consider is how much horsepower do you really need? I spent a lot of money and time to get 500 HP and 533 FP of torque. The fact is that even on the racetrack, I can rarely use that much.

RS