Aluminum Body Shelby Continuation rollers $160,000.00

[AL427SBF]

I think for our friend I have found the pocket watch of choice, easy to assemble and maintain, fits in a nyc dude's vest pocket like a glove.

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Are watches complicated to assemble? And wasn't the pocket watch invented in the 1500's? Wouldn't that make the design of a watch to be about 500 +/- years old?

Who would pay alot of money for such a simple-to-assemble and for an old design? No irony there.

"Complicated to assemble?"

Well yeah...the real ones (mechanical) are...hell of a lot more complicated then these damn cars we yap about here. Add things like automatic winding, dates, power reserves, time measurement, diving calculators, multiple timezones, etc....all of which are referred to as "complications"...and consider the size of the case, and yes damn complicated. Take a moment and google "tourbillon" and you might get an appreciation for the art of watchmaking.

[Jamo]

Now, shall we begin our discussion about fountain pen nibs?

[Al G]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

The sales guy for Shelby hasn't sold 1 50th Anniversary Cobra 289. What proof do u have that there is a demand?

The sales guy at Shelby wouldn't sell any. They have to be purchased through an authorized dealer. If by "sales guy" you meant Becker, he is only one of many dealers. I know for a fact several, if not all, have been sold.

[Jamo]

RodKnock, everyone has their own thing(s), but I appreciate replicating the look, feel and sound of a sportsracer based on 50s/60s technology for the same reason I appreciate watches, pens, Eisenhower, fly fishing or talking to the winemaker about his craft...it's "real" rather than some damn electrical mumbo jumbo that is simply convenience, as a proper flush toilet is more convenient than joining the bears in the woods.

[Al G]

Originally Posted by stephen_becker

As a factory-authorized Shelby Cobra dealer I can give you all fresh updates on cars as of June 1st / The CSX 4000/6000 alumni body cars are, in fact, two years out. They are also now called CSX 6000's (alumni or fiberglass) so the CSX 4000 is dead - SAI will take 50% of the MSRP and place your order - You will then wait……and wait and wait some more / The MSRP has been raised on both the alumnium and glass cars all the way around due to increase from suppliers (those bastards!) LOL - Option prices have gone thru the roof / now as far as Daytona Coupes I am told to be on the look out for a 50th anniversary Coupe (not sure if its glass or alumni) to be shown at Barrett Jackson Las Vegas in September followed by a 50th anniversary 427 S/C in January of next year / As far as the CSX 7000 50th anniversary cars i have not sold 1 - NADA, nope, nothing, zero, 0! - I chalk that up to the fact that the car is a sticker and badge job done by former (clueless) SAI management and that the CSX 7000 does not even get close to looking like a real 289 comp car (its superformance kit-looking from the rear of the doors going back) looks wrong - Of course i will be happy to sell you one and again we go with the 50% deposit and a wait and a wait / With that behind us I look forward the the 50th anniv coupe and 427 S/C car - Always available to answer questions just post or call

Best!

SGB
(770) 900 5532

Can you elaborate on what you think is wrong with the 7000 series body? Any pictures that show differences between the originals and the current offering?

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

Looking at the roller list, how much are baer brakes, halibrand wheels, leaf springs, tires, bucket seats, carpet, frame, roll bar, wooden steering wheel, Smith gauges, mirrors? U buy these identical parts from a store and they don't add up to $25K.

2 year wait+++ is a long time! People get sick, move, divorce, go broke, find other toys, lose patience, etc. Do buyers lose their 50% deposit if they back out?

After the body/frame is complete, the rest of the Cobra is not hard to assemble. I can install front and rear suspension in 2-3 work days(8 hrs a day), and u don't need to be a Cobra specialist. Fact: my buddy purchased a Shelby Mustang Snake from Shelby Inc. and the Shelby Tech who assembled his Mustang also works on Cobras (when or if they ever arrive at the Vegas shop). Look past nostalgia. These Cobras are not complicated to build and build quickly.

At least FFR got their philosophy and budget correct; these cars are for hobbyists, a niche market, and they should be reasonably priced to continue the hobby.

SAI makes Cobras with 60 year old parts and charges 3X or 4X their actual cost, a 2 year wait, and they give u a hot rod authenticated with Shelby's name and Cobra badges? With all due respect to the Shelby legacy and family, the exclusivity brand is not worth $160K++, not with the build parts and depreciation drop once the car leaves the showroom.(Is there a warranty for a roller?)

nyg

Well I could be wrong, but I have heard that some folks get their FFR kits delivered pretty quickly but then it takes them years to put them together.

[buddyg]

Originally Posted by Dimis

Accidentally bumped the like button on one of the Rolex/timex posts.
I quickly unliked it!!!

Why bothers wearing a watch these days?
Aren't your multi-purpose mobile phones able to do this?

It's jewelry for men. I only like mechanical watches and they are very complicated movements. Better than just a battery watch.

[NewYorkGuy]

Originally Posted by buddyg

It's jewelry for men. I only like mechanical watches and they are very complicated movements. Better than just a battery watch.

these hot rods are the ultimate men's jewelry and the Shelby Cobra is King. Everything else is a hot rod.

Now your Hot rod shaped Cobra (SPF, Kirk, BDR, whatever) is no more Cobra than my Nissan. I mean what lesson are you teaching your children, family, by opening your garage and showing them a hot rod cobra?

"Kids, stay in school, get a job, work hard and some day, u can buy a hot rod...shaped like a Cobra?"

The guys who build their hot rods in their garages with their own hands and sweat- I respect that. They got the hobby right. Again, a hot rod Cobra should not cost more than $50K.

Suppy & demand? Yea, i guess for a very small niche market willing to pay $160K for a Shelby Cobra roller and wait 2 years to build++. U find buyers at wine & cheese car events like at Pebble Beach or Amelia island but those buyers are getting older/dying every year and their sons/grandsons have been educated to spot fake cars and avoid bad investments.

I think the Cobra market will crash. The winners will be the guys who have original Cobras, or purchased continuations Cobras years ago, not now in 2014.

I wait 5 more years and I should be able to pick up a late model (2013), low miles (they all have low miles) SPF hot rod for about $25K.

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

these hot rods are the ultimate men's jewelry and the Shelby Cobra is King. Everything else is a hot rod.

Now your Hot rod shaped Cobra (SPF, Kirk, BDR, whatever) is no more Cobra than my Nissan. I mean what lesson are you teaching your children, family, by opening your garage and showing them a hot rod cobra?

"Kids, stay in school, get a job, work hard and some day, u can buy a hot rod...shaped like a Cobra?"

The guys who build their hot rods in their garages with their own hands and sweat- I respect that. They got the hobby right. Again, a hot rod Cobra should not cost more than $50K.

Suppy & demand? Yea, i guess for a very small niche market willing to pay $160K for a Shelby Cobra roller and wait 2 years to build++. U find buyers at wine & cheese car events like at Pebble Beach or Amelia island but those buyers are getting older/dying every year and their sons/grandsons have been educated to spot fake cars and avoid bad investments.

I think the Cobra market will crash. The winners will be the guys who have original Cobras, or purchased continuations Cobras years ago, not now in 2014.

I wait 5 more years and I should be able to pick up a late model (2013), low miles (they all have low miles) SPF hot rod for about $25K.

You've repeated this identical description of your point of view several times. You're not adding anything to the discussion. Unless you have something new to say, don't say anything.

Thank you very much for your expected cooperation.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by Jamo

You've repeated this identical description of your point of view several times. You're not adding anything to the discussion. Unless you have something new to say, don't say anything.

Thank you very much for your expected cooperation.

I was starting to think I was hearing a broken record too.

I'm not sure anyone on this thread has said that they thought that they would consider getting an SAI roller for $160K, but to say that no one here should pay more than $50K for a Cobra replica is kind of silly. In case NewYorkGuy has not noticed, several people on this thread have Kirkhams and I am sure they have paid more than $50K for them and are more than happy with their cars and don't seem to mind having paid as much as they did for their cars. Although a Kirkham can be considered to be a Cobra shaped hot hod, it is a very good replica and with some rather expensive options and rare NOS parts, a Kirkham could be made to be pretty much an exact copy of an original 1960's Cobra to the point where you would need a expert to tell it apart from an original. You cannot do that with an SPF, ERA, etc. To someone who wants to truly replicate the experience of an original without the spending the price of an original, it can be done with a Kirkham (or an aluminum body SAI), so I think it can be more than than just a Cobra shaped hot rod. However, the majority of Kirkham owners seem to be content with the standard roller that weighs hundreds of pounds less than an original and is cooler in many ways.

[damage]

This thread has provided a huge amount of entertainment to me some of the posts are just mind boggling.

Probably not my place to join in seeing I'm in Australia but you guys look like your having sooooo much fun.

I do own a Cobra Hot Rod fakedoo Kirkham so I figure there is some qualification to speak????

Who owns the name "Red Wine" ?
How many manufacturers of Red Wine are there?
Are these all copies of an original ? or copies of copies?.
What determines the value of a bottle of Red Wine?
Why does Red Wine vary so much in value?
Probably a too simple of an analogy, but I would have thought in today's age does it really matter who made your kit/ copy/fakeydoo/ continuation/Kirkham Cobra.

Isn't the value of an object determined by the Buyer????

[stephen_becker]

Originally Posted by Al G

The sales guy at Shelby wouldn't sell any. They have to be purchased through an authorized dealer. If by "sales guy" you meant Becker, he is only one of many dealers. I know for a fact several, if not all, have been sold.

Your full of poop - you know from nothing - I just got an email from Gary Patterson at SAI who states that they have 23 of the 50 cars still left - Get your facts straight…………..

[stephen_becker]

Originally Posted by Al G

Can you elaborate on what you think is wrong with the 7000 series body? Any pictures that show differences between the originals and the current offering?

All you do is attack me on different forums - I do not know you, have never spoken with you (to the best of my knowledge) nor did you buy a car from me - You want elaboration and details? Call the dealer that sold you your csx car and ask him………..

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

these hot rods are the ultimate men's jewelry and the Shelby Cobra is King. Everything else is a hot rod.

Now your Hot rod shaped Cobra (SPF, Kirk, BDR, whatever) is no more Cobra than my Nissan. I mean what lesson are you teaching your children, family, by opening your garage and showing them a hot rod cobra?

"Kids, stay in school, get a job, work hard and some day, u can buy a hot rod...shaped like a Cobra?"

The guys who build their hot rods in their garages with their own hands and sweat- I respect that. They got the hobby right. Again, a hot rod Cobra should not cost more than $50K.

Suppy & demand? Yea, i guess for a very small niche market willing to pay $160K for a Shelby Cobra roller and wait 2 years to build++. U find buyers at wine & cheese car events like at Pebble Beach or Amelia island but those buyers are getting older/dying every year and their sons/grandsons have been educated to spot fake cars and avoid bad investments.

I think the Cobra market will crash. The winners will be the guys who have original Cobras, or purchased continuations Cobras years ago, not now in 2014.

I wait 5 more years and I should be able to pick up a late model (2013), low miles (they all have low miles) SPF hot rod for about $25K.

This statement is either made by someone who's a troll or delusional.

1. Our Cobra's are no more of a Cobra than your Nissan? Come on. Really? You truly believe that nonsense. That's just down right moronic or troll-like. And if you believed that nonsense, then why the F do you want to buy another Nissan shaped like a Cobra (just an entirely different shape)? Sorry, IMO, pure stupidity.

2. The SAAC World Registry, the "authoritiative" text that Evan uses/abuses, lists Kirkham's and actually calls them a Kirkham Cobra.

3. If the Cobra market crashes, then a) the stock, bond and real estate markets will have likely crashed too and b) there will be buyers for everything at a discount. Also, the markets have crashed regularly since 1929, where are prices today? If you're waiting for a $25,000 SPF, then you'll die an old man, who NEVER owned a Cobra.

4. "...what lesson are you teaching your children, family, by opening your garage and showing them a hot rod cobra? "Kids, stay in school, get a job, work hard and some day, u can buy a hot rod...shaped like a Cobra?"

What's your thinking here? What are you saying? Please don't preach to others about educating their children. This is probably the worse statement you've uttered here on CC IMO. You're telling us how we should or shouldn't teach (values, no less) our children? Am I speaking to Arne Duncan, the U.S. Secretary of Education? Or did he resign and someone nominate you? Please just stop.

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by stephen_becker

Your full of poop - you know from nothing - I just got an email from Gary Patterson at SAI who states that they have 23 of the 50 cars still left - Get your facts straight…………..

Now just where in the hell do you think you are that you think you can get off using that kind of language around here?

[Jamo]

RodKnock...calm down there a bit boy. No need to pile on.

Wanna buy a watch?

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Wanna buy a watch?

"Wanna buy a watch? I know y'all need a watch, 'cause if y'all had a watch, y'all know it be night time and night time ain't no time to be in this part of town"

And I traded away the fake Rolex I was given some years ago. But I do own a gen-u-ine Timex. No replicas here!

[Al G]

Originally Posted by stephen_becker

Your full of poop - you know from nothing - I just got an email from Gary Patterson at SAI who states that they have 23 of the 50 cars still left - Get your facts straight…………..

That means they've sold 27. How is my statement wrong? I didn't claim they were all sold, just that they might be.

[Al G]

Originally Posted by stephen_becker

All you do is attack me on different forums - I do not know you, have never spoken with you (to the best of my knowledge) nor did you buy a car from me - You want elaboration and details? Call the dealer that sold you your csx car and ask him………..

How did I attack you? You made a statement about the car and I asked for more detail because I respect your knowledge of these cars.