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08-15-2013, 03:04 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tempe,AZ-High Point,NC,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #684, 482FE, Mike Mccluskey build
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jhv48
maybe it's just me, but $200k for that car? Not worth the money for a replica of an original.
If i wanted an aluminum bodied cobra, i would buy a kirkham. No matter what the continuation car builders and owners claim, they are not now, nor will they ever be, an original shelby cobra. They will always be the redheaded stepchild of the original. Shelby american is just trying to cash in on the legendary status of c.s. Before the mystique fades away for ever.
When i see a poorly made ffr cobra selling for $47k and a roush engined superformance cobra going for $49k at barrett last weekend, it further reinforces my opinion that buyers haven't got a clue about the value of these cars.
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Amen Brother...
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08-15-2013, 03:32 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: PICO RIVERA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: B&B 306/FORD
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The value is what ever someone will pay for it.
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08-15-2013, 04:00 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by la cobra
The value is what ever someone will pay for it.
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And I'm reminded of the proverb "A fool and his money are soon parted."
I only found one alloy CSX (4400) on CobraCountry and the way that one is finished under the hood makes me think that anything near $200K is a dream. It's also a dealer, which likely means it's NOT priced to sell.
Assuming the new roller price is correct, then we'll see how many buyers will line up.
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08-15-2013, 04:23 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Well when the buy in cost of a new one is going to be $210K+ depending on options and detail plus the excruciating wait for the aluminum roller to arrive from Shelby that helps the value of the used ones go up does it not???
Call the Continuation whatever you little hearts desire the facts are set forth in the SAAC Registry and their acceptance as genuine Cobras is a fait accompli by SAAC.
I don't see any kit cars or "replicas" (i.e non Shelbys) of Cobras going for anything near six figures let alone near $200K. I think the market has therefore spoken too.
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08-15-2013, 04:38 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Dayton,
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Cobra Make, Engine: RCR SLC, Graziano 6-spd, LS3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodneym
The ally Shelby for $200k on CobraCountry:
Would CSX4400 be from 2008? Did Shelby go out of order?
83 miles...hard believe till you look at those seats. My seats had more wear on them from the cow.
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The car right below it on CobraCountry is a much better deal IMHO
Pete
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08-15-2013, 04:44 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: MELBOURNE,AUSTRALIA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Homebush,B2 Windsor 445
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
I don't see any kit cars or "replicas" (i.e non Shelbys) of Cobras going for anything near six figures let alone near $200K. I think the market has therefore spoken too.
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Your seein what you want to see!!!!
.....it's not at all hard to find replica's ie; Non -Shelby cars in the Six figure bracket world wide ,maybe you need to do the search without the blinkers on and not request the proof when you actually know the facts are there right in front of you!!!!
....But I'm more than happy with the size of my little pinky!!!
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08-15-2013, 04:45 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2932 with 438 Lykins Motorsports engine. Previous owner of FFR 5452.
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No one is saying they are not real Shelby's. We are saying that they are not original Shelby's.
It's like saying my 2011 Shelby GT500 is an original Shelby GT500. It's not. But it is a real Shelby.
Shelby can price the cobras however they see fit. Those in the know won't bite.
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08-15-2013, 05:09 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
Well when the buy in cost of a new one is going to be $210K+ depending on options and detail plus the excruciating wait for the aluminum roller to arrive from Shelby that helps the value of the used ones go up does it not???
Call the Continuation whatever you little hearts desire the facts are set forth in the SAAC Registry and their acceptance as genuine Cobras is a fait accompli by SAAC.
I don't see any kit cars or "replicas" (i.e non Shelbys) of Cobras going for anything near six figures let alone near $200K. I think the market has therefore spoken too.
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1. Have you heard of any parties being thrown where no one shows up? Also, assuming the new roller price is indeed true, there's no documented proof of one being sold at that amount.
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3. As recently as August 1, per CobraCountry, a black/red Kirkham was sold. Asking price was $115K firm. I should mention that it was used in a Maroon 5 video for a few moments. There are a few examples in memory where Kirkham's have been sold around the $100K figure (+/-). And the Kirkham's have mentioned a price increase in the future as well.
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08-15-2013, 05:15 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Cobra Make, Engine: Sold - Shelby Cobra CSX6045, 468 ci all aluminum Shelby engine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I only found one alloy CSX (4400) on CobraCountry and the way that one is finished under the hood makes me think that anything near $200K is a dream. It's also a dealer, which likely means it's NOT priced to sell.
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Look further down the page for CSX4387 listed at $195K.
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08-15-2013, 05:23 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OZCOBRA
Your seein what you want to see!!!!
.....it's not at all hard to find replica's ie; Non -Shelby cars in the Six figure bracket world wide ,maybe you need to do the search without the blinkers on and not request the proof when you actually know the facts are there right in front of you!!!!
....But I'm more than happy with the size of my little pinky!!!
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Really? Enlighten me. Post the cars and sale figures. Kirkhams don't count. They are "Cobras" per the Registry not "replicas".
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08-15-2013, 05:29 PM
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We all well know your position on this matter. Be content with the apparent comfort you can take for being long a CSX. Please don't make this yet another 'last stand at the Alamo'. No one has been convinced and gone over to your side from the last time.
Instead, tell us if the patented 'Patrick-Air-Bleed-Fix-All' was successful on your carb question.
Or how many air molecules you keep in the tires on damp days-
Or-ANYTHING else....
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08-15-2013, 05:29 PM
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Sign At Hot August Nights
REAL 1, do you have any relatives that attended Hot August Nights This Year?
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08-15-2013, 05:50 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by Cobra #3170
REAL 1, do you have any relatives that attended Hot August Nights This Year?
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And somebody like that generally does not have a good sense of humor....
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08-15-2013, 05:52 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Melbourne,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Some polish thing... With some old engine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
And I'm reminded of the proverb "A fool and his money are soon parted."
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Aptly put my friend.
I have ever told you that I find your statements most eloquent?!
Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
Well when the buy in cost of a new one is going to be $210K+ depending on options and detail plus the excruciating wait for the aluminum roller to arrive from Shelby that helps the value of the used ones go up does it not???
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Possibly true... but more so, me thinks that flow on ramification is that it increases the wait list for a kirkham
I got no facts to prove it... but hey, why don't you try ordering one to just verify.
Just saying
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08-15-2013, 06:49 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Al G
There are two advertised on Cobra Country for $195,000 and $199,000. Granted, the selling price might end up being less but I think Evan is in the ballpark.
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As you already know, they can "ask" whatever they want. I know of one listed down under for $500,000, does not mean he will get it.
Bill S.
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08-15-2013, 07:11 PM
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Just because the registry calls it cobra, it's still a replica. And as far as I am concerned not worth 200K.
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08-15-2013, 08:05 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2932 with 438 Lykins Motorsports engine. Previous owner of FFR 5452.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
And somebody like that generally does not have a good sense of humor....
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Yeah, but they are so much fun to poke with a stick.
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08-15-2013, 08:25 PM
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I guess I look at it a bit different than most.
I believe that the later years CSX is an original Shelby Cobra. It’s just not an original 60's Shelby Cobra.
It could be made with the same tooling as the 60's Shelby Cobra's and someone put in a 1960's drive train in it. But it does not make it a 60's Shelby Cobra.
If it was built in 2013, then it is an original 2013 Shelby Cobra.
Just my opinion, which means not a darn thing.
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08-15-2013, 08:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
And I'm reminded of the proverb "A fool and his money are soon parted."
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Really saves me continuing the ZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz at the Alamo!!!
Ultimately it aint REAL1 if it aint 60's production...Continuation is Replication!!
You want to shell out or try to Justify $150/200K for the letters CSX on a replica....Wank factor!!....we'll keep making them and rais'n the $$$ because keep buyin them!!!.....
If i were to spend that amount of coin I'll be payin that for a replica that has the workmanship and substance to warrant that type of dollar and there are few of those!!!
...... and not because it has CSX 4000 or later as a prefix and its on a registery so I can say its real1!!!
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08-15-2013, 08:54 PM
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Let's just save the time and aggrevation . . .
. . . and just go ahead and close this thread now.
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