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08-15-2013, 06:38 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Aluminum Body Shelby Continuation rollers $160,000.00
Just got some information that Shelby Continuation aluminum rollers are going up to $160,000.00.
Seems if you can buy an aluminum Continuation series for $200,000.00 right now, that would be the move. After rollers hit $160,000.00 a finished car will clearly be north of $200,000.00 by a good margin especially if finished nicely and with detail.
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Last edited by REAL 1; 08-15-2013 at 09:29 AM..
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08-15-2013, 06:47 AM
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Yea, but you still end up with a Kirkham and a Kirkham is a lot less.
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08-15-2013, 07:47 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Well this is very exciting news.
BTW, there are a lot of zeros in your post. And some were actually needed. 
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08-15-2013, 07:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tcrist
Yea, but you still end up with a Kirkham and a Kirkham is a lot less.
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Kirkham's are still bargain basement priced at $69,500.00.
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08-15-2013, 08:15 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
Just got some information that Shelby Continuation aluminum rollers are going up to $160,000.00.00.
Seems if you can buy an aluminum Continuation series for $200,000.00 right now, that would be the move. After rollers hit $160,000.00 a finished car will clearly be north of $200,000.00 by a good margin especially if finished nicely and with detail.
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Evan,
Most complete, running, driving aluminum continuation series cars have trouble selling in the 125-150K range. Wonder how they will justify the bump in base pricing for a roller.
Bill S.
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08-15-2013, 08:41 AM
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Not that it somehow justifies the price increase, but the market seems to be good for Cobra replicas. And IIRC, the Kirkham's are sold out until next Spring.
Bill Malone's top-of-the-line black fiberglass CSX4000 with a Cammer sold for $110K at auction last year at this time. I heard he later bought it back for less.
Personally, I'd rather buy a 1965-1966 GT350 for the money, if staying within the Shelby marque. If considering comparison buys outside the marque, then the list of possibilities is large.
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08-15-2013, 09:34 AM
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Last I saw asking prices for aluminum bodies Shelbys were hitting near$200,000.00. I also saw Shelby Dealer advertising looking to buy aluminum bodies Shelbys.
Bill: Ok...sure...If you have some actual verifiable sales figures for aluminum bodied Continuation Cobras please post. Your figures are WAY off according to my source who restores originals and still finishes some continuation cars.
Tcrist: Saying you still end up with a Kirkham is like saying when you buy an original Shelby you still end up with an AC  There is clearly a vast price difference between the two as to both original vs. AC and Continuation vs. Kirkham.
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08-15-2013, 09:53 AM
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I have two comments. First, if the demand exceeds the supply by a large enough margin, I suppose anything is possible. Second, I used to see guys by the side of the road selling velvet Elvis paintings and I couldn't imagine who was buying. Again, I suppose anything is possible. .... All this says more about why I never sough a career selling stuff than it does the value of Shelby's version of a Cobra replica.
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08-15-2013, 10:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
Just got some information that Shelby Continuation aluminum rollers are going up to $160,000.00.
Seems if you can buy an aluminum Continuation series for $200,000.00 right now, that would be the move. After rollers hit $160,000.00 a finished car will clearly be north of $200,000.00 by a good margin especially if finished nicely and with detail.
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Say, didn't Brian Angliss keep raising the price of his cars when the market was hot and then end up pricing himself out of the market when it took a down turn? Where did that get him? On the outside looking in? And then Lubinsky took over AC to well, um, ... 
Remember when Shelby priced the completion cars at 500k? How many did they end up selling? I wonder what happened to all of those frames and parts source from McCluskey?
Is 160k for an aluminum CSX4000 (Kirkham based) roller or the aluminum CSX1000 deluxe roller source from England? If 160k is for the CSX4000, what did they raise the price of the CSX1000 to?
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08-15-2013, 10:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
Last I saw asking prices for aluminum bodies Shelbys were hitting near$200,000.00. I also saw Shelby Dealer advertising looking to buy aluminum bodies Shelbys.
Bill: Ok...sure...If you have some actual verifiable sales figures for aluminum bodied Continuation Cobras please post. Your figures are WAY off according to my source who restores originals and still finishes some continuation cars.
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There are two advertised on Cobra Country for $195,000 and $199,000. Granted, the selling price might end up being less but I think Evan is in the ballpark.
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08-15-2013, 11:02 AM
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08-15-2013, 11:03 AM
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Desperado.......why dont you come to your senses...............................::........... .
The thing that worries me the most is........will the following generation continue our craziness for these cars..?
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08-15-2013, 12:06 PM
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I hope they sell all they can at $200k, and still keep going up.
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08-15-2013, 12:26 PM
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I'm just reporting the information I heard.
One thing for sure the Shelby aluminum continuation purchase price is going up regardless of your opinion on the car.
Prices on originals have gone up and down over the years too.
One thing for sure, if SAI goes out of business or stops producing continuation Cobras the continuation values will go up even more.
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08-15-2013, 02:05 PM
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Anybody want POPCORN, I'm buying...
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08-15-2013, 02:18 PM
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Well, it was getting pretty boring around here. 
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08-15-2013, 02:24 PM
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HUGE difference between an asking price and an actual sale price. Just because someone asks $200K doesn't mean it's worth that.
On the orginal post - $40K plus to finish a roller? Really?
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08-15-2013, 02:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PSB
HUGE difference between an asking price and an actual sale price. Just because someone asks $200K doesn't mean it's worth that.
On the orginal post - $40K plus to finish a roller? Really?
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Engine-trans $25-$35k if your doing an aluminum FE, another $5-$10k for installation and miscellaneous items and your at $40k, depressing isn't it???
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08-15-2013, 03:01 PM
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The ally Shelby for $200k on CobraCountry:
Would CSX4400 be from 2008? Did Shelby go out of order?
83 miles...hard believe till you look at those seats. My seats had more wear on them from the cow.
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08-15-2013, 03:02 PM
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Maybe it's just me, but $200k for that car? Not worth the money for a replica of an original.
If I wanted an aluminum bodied cobra, I would buy a kirkham. No matter what the continuation car builders and owners claim, they are not now, nor will they ever be, an original Shelby cobra. They will always be the redheaded stepchild of the original. Shelby American is just trying to cash in on the legendary status of C.S. before the mystique fades away for ever.
When I see a poorly made FFR cobra selling for $47k and a Roush engined superformance cobra going for $49k at Barrett last weekend, it further reinforces my opinion that buyers haven't got a clue about the value of these cars.
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