Here's An Interesting CSX4000 (or is it)?

[D111]

from the rear photograph the car looks like its not centered on the chassis

[bret a ewing]

It's cool that Kirkham got to build this car, they don't finish cars for US consumption.

I'm positive it was done right. Nice job K-guys!!

[OnyxRider]

Originally Posted by csx4017

The HST plant tooling went to SA as I hear it. You reference 4000 series that have been superseded by 6000. Are they building 9000 Aluminum Daytona Coupes in LV ?? The facts are at Shelby America, not from bits and pieces I or any of us have heard. We have all read what people think they know. I can tell you with factual documents that CSX4017 was built in TJ and she has several other CSX numbers written on the lower footbox and tub. Indicating to me that these components were not installed as originally intended.

Are there comprehensive records being kept on the different locations of assembly? I know a few guys spend a lot of time on 60's Cobras so was just wondering.

Hey Real 1 what does the registry have to say about the above locations. LV Tijuana SA builds or assembly locations?

No you guys label your cobras so I don't have to use original before cobra to state the real deal.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by 1ntCobra

Aluminum Csx4000 cars are still built in Vegas on body/frames sourced from Kirkham. The Mexican plant has been closed for a while.

Another thread did mention an exception. For the aluminum bodied 50th anniversary edition, Kirkham shipped body and frames to South Africa to be put together along side the fiberglass bodied 50th anniversary edition cars. So there is always going to be an exception to any statement...

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by OnyxRider

Are there comprehensive records being kept on the different locations of assembly? I know a few guys spend a lot of time on 60's Cobras so was just wondering.

Hey Real 1 what does the registry have to say about the above locations. LV Tijuana SA builds or assembly locations?

No you guys label your cobras so I don't have to use original before cobra to state the real deal.

It doesn't mention specific locations of fabrication for the fiberglass bodies as I recall.

Real deal? Again depends on whether you are talking about original or continuation. Could mean real deal "continuation cobra" or real deal "original".

I think we use the SAAC definitions. Fair, clear and easy and preferences each with the appropriate amount of provenance and pedigree and is not demeaning to any.

Someone should keep a record of this as it is part of the history of the Fiberglass Continuation cars.

[D111]

175 grand for a car that's body's not square on the chassis,come on.

[D111]

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[D111]

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[twobjshelbys]

While in general HiTech does not build aluminum bodied Cobras I was offered a Daytona Coupe (CSX9000 series) by Lance that was in SA nearing completions. It sure seemed like that car was being hand build in SA by the HiTech crew (he made no effort to say it wasn't built by someone else and finished there but it sure sounded like they formed the body there). The alloy body for the Coupe is an option - are they indeed fully built in SA?

[csx4017]

That is exactly what I mean. The facts are not out on the table for all to see. My instincts say all of the Aluminum bodies, roadster and coupes are being supplied by Kirkham via his European factory. They are then assembled by HiTech into your typical " roller " configuration. I have never asked Lance that question, though I believe he (and Kirkham) has that knowledge. Lance will sell you either a Shelby or a Superformance, both coming from HiTech.
I believe the interpretation of the photograph is incorrect. Anyone who has watched the fabrication and assembly of Kirkham cars must be impressed with the quality and integrity of this product. Check out the array of photos they have supplied to this site.

[D111]

Originally Posted by csx4017

I believe the interpretation of the photograph is incorrect. Anyone who has watched the fabrication and assembly of Kirkham cars must be impressed with the quality and integrity of this product. Check out the array of photos they have supplied to this site.

it's off ,my question is can it be adjusted?

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by csx4017

That is exactly what I mean. The facts are not out on the table for all to see. My instincts say all of the Aluminum bodies, roadster and coupes are being supplied by Kirkham via his European factory. They are then assembled by HiTech into your typical " roller " configuration. I have never asked Lance that question, though I believe he (and Kirkham) has that knowledge. Lance will sell you either a Shelby or a Superformance, both coming from HiTech.
I believe the interpretation of the photograph is incorrect. Anyone who has watched the fabrication and assembly of Kirkham cars must be impressed with the quality and integrity of this product. Check out the array of photos they have supplied to this site.

Here is a link to another thread showing pictures of csx1000 and csx4000 aluminum body/frames in the Shelby Vegas facility.

Aluminum Body

These pictures are from the timeframe of fiberglass cars being sourced from South Africa.

Thus we have evidence of Vegas still building aluminum csx1000/csx4000 cars up from English/Kirkham body/frames as late as 2012.

[Allan A]

Funny how this car pops up, I was the one who ordered it with two others. The ad is incorrect:

In 2004 we [i.e., Kirkham Motorsports] first sold the rolling chassis to Shelby, who built it up with their parts and components into a standard Shelby roller.

Car was just chassis and body, I am sure there is much more BS but I dont have the time to read it.

[OnyxRider]

Originally Posted by 1ntCobra

Here is a link to another thread showing pictures of csx1000 and csx4000 aluminum body/frames in the Shelby Vegas facility.

Aluminum Body

These pictures are from the timeframe of fiberglass cars being sourced from South Africa.

Thus we have evidence of Vegas still building aluminum csx1000/csx4000 cars up from English/Kirkham body/frames as late as 2012.

You guys should be writing for the Continuation/ Kirkham registry.

[csx4017]

You can not make that determination from one photo.

[D111]

Originally Posted by csx4017

You can not make that determination from one photo.

it is off center I confirmed it.

[OnyxRider]

Originally Posted by Allan A

Funny how this car pops up, I was the one who ordered it with two others. The ad is incorrect:

In 2004 we [i.e., Kirkham Motorsports] first sold the rolling chassis to Shelby, who built it up with their parts and components into a standard Shelby roller.

Car was just chassis and body, I am sure there is much more BS but I dont have the time to read it.

Allan just reading your signature. someone pointed out to me CSX7049 how does that compare to the one you listed?

[David Kirkham]

Originally Posted by Allan A

...The ad is incorrect:

In 2004 we [i.e., Kirkham Motorsports] first sold the rolling chassis to Shelby, who built it up with their parts and components into a standard Shelby roller.

Thank you for finding the typo (the sentence doesn't make sense as written--the roller couldn't be built up with Shelby parts if we delivered it as a roller). We have contacted Curt Scott to clarify the ad. This frame and body was delivered to Shelby as a frame and body only.

Just for clarification: we sold two rollers to Carroll Shelby personally. We have never sold a roller to the company Shelby American.

David

[D Dubya]

You knuckleheads cut it out. We are all Cobra owners. Shut up and go for a drive.

[David Kirkham]

Always nice to have another set of eyes looking at things. The ad has been corrected and now says:

"In 2004 we [i.e., Kirkham Motorsports] first sold the body/chassis unit to Shelby American Inc., who built it up with their parts and components into their standard CSX4000 roller."

David