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09-11-2013, 06:24 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Sparta,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft 1048
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Need help deciding which cobra
I have narrowed my search down to two cars. Keep in mind high on my list is resale value in about 5 years
Car 1 1966 Shell Valley 428FE big block wit Automatic 234 miles offered at $32K. Top and cover included
Car 2 1965 Lone Star with 5k miles 351W stroked to 427 and T5 transmission offered at $29k. No top or cover
Both cars are blue with white stripes.
This is a tough decision.
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09-11-2013, 06:35 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,001
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Unless you are physically handicapped you should not even look twice at a Cobra with an automatic in it.
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09-11-2013, 06:37 PM
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That's my thought to but the trans can always be swapped
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09-11-2013, 06:40 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by genolan
That's my thought to but the trans can always be swapped
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Yes, but it's more complicated than you think. Clutch pedal, linkage, slave cylinder, master cylinder, new flywheel, pressure plate, TOB, fork... it starts to add up, especially if you have to do a little fabbing to make it all fit.
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09-11-2013, 07:00 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Melbourne,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Some polish thing... With some old engine
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Either way at $30K plus or minus... How much could really lose over 5 years?
Ownership will cost you more than any loss you stand to realize on either purchase.
So with that in mind pic the one that you'd gravitate to first, if you were to see them parked next to each other.
Just saying, that would be my approach.
PS: If I had to guess the way you defended the Automatic - You like the Shell Valley better don't you?
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09-11-2013, 07:23 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft 1048
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Good point, I really like standard shift and I guess that would be my first choice. so Car would be the fun car to have.
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09-11-2013, 11:13 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Bay Area (Peninsula),
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427, 427/487 side-oiler
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Can you post photos or links?
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09-12-2013, 04:34 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Shasta Lake,
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Cobra Make, Engine:
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Though this isn't the brand that you are looking at and it does have an automatic Transmission this Cobra is for sale for $20K and has been tested and driven by several people who know them well. It is well built and solid. If I had the money I would buy it, make a couple of changes and sell it. If at all interested in reading about it let me know and I will send you the link.
Ron
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09-12-2013, 05:09 AM
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Location: Peoria Illinois,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #678
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For the resale value alone I would think the standard transmission car would sell better than the automatic. My 2 cents.
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09-12-2013, 05:17 AM
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Kirk,
Normally they do but several around here built theirs with Automatics. for one thing their wives like the Automatic and would drive the Cobras. And there are some places in San Francisco that a stick is almost impossible to not burn the clutch out soon. Remember the hill in the movie Bullet? That hill is a real pain to go up when you have to stop at each cross street and then try to start up. I used to set my parking brake, put the car in 1st gear, rev the engine up, and then release the parking brake while at the same time dumping the clutch. Burning rubber like that is normal down there but it is expensive in the long run. However I still prefer the 4 or 5 speeds.
Ron
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09-12-2013, 05:23 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Quote:
Originally Posted by genolan
I have narrowed my search down to two cars. Keep in mind high on my list is resale value in about 5 years
Car 1 1966 Shell Valley 428FE big block wit Automatic 234 miles offered at $32K. Top and cover included
Car 2 1965 Lone Star with 5k miles 351W stroked to 427 and T5 transmission offered at $29k. No top or cover
Both cars are blue with white stripes.
This is a tough decision.
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You are really not giving us a lot to work with, what other options does each car have (wipers, heater, IRS, type of shocks used, details of the engine, knock off or bolt on wheels, type of gauges and their layout in the dash, etc). What condition is each car in, what condition is the paint in on each car, what condition is the interior of each car, how about the mileage of each car? ? ? Finally, what is your ultimate goal and/or use for the car (IE: street cruiser, daily driver, drag racer, road racer, etc).....
With a lot more information, we can really assist you. Finally, besides the color of the cars, what else drew you to them? Perhaps neither of those cars is really good for you and you are allowing your emotions to get the better of you right now.
Bill S.
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09-12-2013, 06:28 AM
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Swapping out the T5 for a TKO 600 is a lot easier than swapping out an automatic for a stick.
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09-12-2013, 07:37 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Albuquerque, N.M.,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 2007 BDR FR Boss 302
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I switched out an automatic to a tko 600 in capteddies cobra. bought most of the parts from vendor Mike Forte. I spent approx $4500 in parts alone if I remember correctly. transmission, flywheel, ram clutch system, driveshaft, new wilwood pedals, hyd clutch with new master cylenders, 3 billet reservoirs, shifter, etc. if you want a std trans, buy a cobra with one in it. much cheaper in the long run. swap takes alot of time also. pull interior, remove and mount new pedal assy, swap trans and poss make/buy new crossmember, patch hole in tunnel for auto shifter and cut new std shift hole, fab and mount all hyd clutch lines and reservoirs, etc. just my 2 cents worth of experience. good luck with your purchase and enjoy.
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09-12-2013, 07:50 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft 1048
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THanks all
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09-12-2013, 08:23 AM
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Brisbane, Australia,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary CCX3117 427FE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmustang
With a lot more information, we can really assist you. Finally, besides the color of the cars, what else drew you to them? Perhaps neither of those cars is really good for you and you are allowing your emotions to get the better of you right now.
Bill S.
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That sounds like a polite way of saying "I could find you a dozen better cars for the money faster than a New York minute"
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09-12-2013, 08:59 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 750hp
That sounds like a polite way of saying "I could find you a dozen better cars for the money faster than a New York minute"
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Nope, I'm not soliciting for any business, as always, I am attempting to find out more about the two cars he has chosen and why he chose them.
Bill S.
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09-12-2013, 09:05 AM
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Wasn't implying anything sinister or underhanded, I was just thinking that for the multitudes of Cobras for sale at any given time, it seemed to me like an unusual pair to have as a short list.
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09-12-2013, 09:07 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary CCX3117 427FE
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...and to the OP, if you haven't done so already, take the time to click on the link in Bill's sig for some great hints about buying a Cobra.
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Craig
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09-12-2013, 09:42 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Dayton,
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Cobra Make, Engine: RCR SLC, Graziano 6-spd, LS3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KirkV
For the resale value alone I would think the standard transmission car would sell better than the automatic. My 2 cents.
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Everyone always says that but I sold my automatic car in three days on Cobra Country. There are several fairly equivalent manual cars in the same price range listed that are still for sale a month and a half later.
Just saying...
Pete
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09-12-2013, 11:55 AM
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have narrowed my search down to two cars. Keep in mind high on my list is resale value in about 5 years
Car 1 1966 Shell Valley 428FE big block with C6Automatic trans. 234 miles offered at $32K. Top and cover included (Mint condition) (Heat and defroster)
Car 2 1965 Lone Star with 5k miles 351W stroked to 427 and T5 transmission offered at $29k. No top or cover (Mint Condition) (No Heat and defroster)
Both cars are blue with white stripes.
This is a tough decision.
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