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10-23-2013, 07:01 AM
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Senile Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Buffalo, NY USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
Every Cobra Or replica thereof on the road is non DOT approved.
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Actually that is not really true.
Many (most?) replicas are DOT compliant, however they are not NHTSA compliant. DOT sets standards for components i.e. brake hoses are double crimped, have compilant sheathing, etc. That is a DOT standard. So is windshield glass meeting AS1 DOT standards, seat belt certification, etc. NHTSA sets standards of performance i.e. braking distance, interior materials flammability, crash standards and so on.
Most of the parts you purchase to build a replica are DOT approved. If you got brake hoses at the auto parts store they are approved. If you used DOT brake fluid, ditto. Sealed beam headlamps, ditto again.
Many people confuse DOT with NHTSA, they are not the same.
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10-23-2013, 07:51 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Redding,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR chassis and suspension, Mr. Bruce 289 FIA body
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Are there any instances where the tires gave way while driving on the road?
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10-23-2013, 08:28 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Midlothian,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Hurricane 427 Cobra #HM2008, Craft Performance 427w 600hp/600tq, TKO-600 close ratio, original Smiths gauges, lucas switches
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Just curious - I don't know the answer. But why does every new 427 that leaves Provo appear to be riding on billboards? Seems to me if they are good enough for the Kirkhams.....
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10-23-2013, 10:42 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
Every Cobra Or replica thereof on the road is non DOT approved. The issue is BBs dry out sooner then DOT tires and should be switched for a new set sooner then tires with more elastomers in them.
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I agree with the first sentence. EDIT: Cobras are NOT Federally approved, and who cares what agency.
I would also add that nearly all cars make contact with the road in only 4 spots. Personally, I would want those 4 contact spots to be extraordinarily safe.
Last edited by RodKnock; 10-23-2013 at 10:45 AM..
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10-23-2013, 10:43 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bwcobra15
Just curious - I don't know the answer. But why does every new 427 that leaves Provo appear to be riding on billboards? Seems to me if they are good enough for the Kirkhams.....
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My Kirkham left Provo with Yokohama's (street radials). |
10-23-2013, 10:47 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill D
Are there any instances where the tires gave way while driving on the road?
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Well, I guess I came as close as I care to. 
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10-23-2013, 10:49 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 427 S/C, Twin Paxton 511 FE
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Evan,
There are pics of Avons with GOODYEAR stenciled lettering (from Raceline Digital) floating around but you will be disappointed IMO due to what I perceive as your attention to detail.
They may look OK from a distance but they don't buldge like the BB's.
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10-23-2013, 03:44 PM
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Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Couldn't find the pics.
Thanks tough.
Does anyone know if Avons have any history with Cobras????
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10-23-2013, 03:57 PM
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I have had a few folks say good things about the G7 and G12 Goodyears, but can't speak first-hand. Anyone here using them or experience with them?
Roger Kraus Racing - Pricing
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10-23-2013, 04:26 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
Does anyone know if Avons have any history with Cobras????
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Yes, they do, based upon the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" theory. 
Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
10-24-2013, 11:13 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Lions Bay,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CAN-AM cobra, 460 SVO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
I have had a few folks say good things about the G7 and G12 Goodyears, but can't speak first-hand. Anyone here using them or experience with them?
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I'm curious as well, my billboards are due for a replace- wonder if the G7's have the same sidewall cracking issue. Unfortunate the G7's don't have the "EAGLE" portion of the lettering on the sidewall, but likely easy to add with a stencil.
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10-24-2013, 12:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xlr8tr
wonder if the G7's have the same sidewall cracking issue.
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Also race tires without additves for long term use. Likely the same situation.
Race tires are race tires, street tires are street tires. Neither does the others job well.
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10-24-2013, 12:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark IV
Also race tires without additves for long term use. Likely the same situation.
Race tires are race tires, street tires are street tires. Neither does the others job well.
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I think Mark IV is right. Avon's site clearly states "competition compound" but also makes a point of stating "DOT Approved" and that they are radial tires. I'm hearing scores of 9 or 10 on dry pavement and near zero in the wet.
I don't think there exists the "perfect all-everything tire" for a Cobra that we all wish was out there.
No easy answer to this conundrum! 
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10-24-2013, 01:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
I think Mark IV is right. Avon's site clearly states "competition compound" but also makes a point of stating "DOT Approved" and that they are radial tires. I'm hearing scores of 9 or 10 on dry pavement and near zero in the wet.
I don't think there exists the "perfect all-everything tire" for a Cobra that we all wish was out there.
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There are plenty of Cobra and GT40 owners using their Avons for racing.
And I don't know many folks running their Cobra's, GT40's or what have you, in the wet/rain. So maybe that zero is because not many, if any, have any experience on wet pavement.
All I know is that I'm NOT ever going to be an owner of Billboards for any reason except possibly to roll on and off a trailer to shows. |
10-24-2013, 01:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark IV
Also race tires without additves for long term use.
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Botox injections? Maybe regular massages? Hell, I know plenty of guys that pay for that for their wives for other forms other forms of "long term use". 
Sorry, had to do it.
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10-24-2013, 01:59 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK427 BB Chevy454
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
Couldn't find the pics.
Thanks tough.
Does anyone know if Avons have any history with Cobras????
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Don't know about history, but I went to a classic car race at Paul Ricard here in France a couple of weeks ago, and all (8) Cobras and all (5) GT40's were running Avons
Mark
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10-24-2013, 03:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marco454v8
Don't know about history, but I went to a classic car race at Paul Ricard here in France a couple of weeks ago, and all (8) Cobras and all (5) GT40's were running Avons
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Ya, see. Even the French use them.
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10-25-2013, 03:48 PM
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BTW, if the poll is correct, at this point, 9 out of 28 respondents (32%) have had problems with their Billboards.
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