Club Cobra Keith Craft Racing  

Go Back   Club Cobra > Cobra Talk Areas > ALL COBRA TALK

MMG Superformance
Nevada Classics
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
MMG Superformance
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
Keith Craft Racing
MMG Superformance
January 2025
S M T W T F S
      1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31  

Kirkham Motorsports

Like Tree14Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2013, 02:21 PM
Swashplate's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Kirkland, WA
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 15
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by D-CEL View Post
My insurance is good, no restrictions. And we are all on the same page as far as experience, Id never let him out alone until I was sure he was competent on the operation and control side. Funny, I have no problem putting him in my RS4 and it makes 420hp. But it sissy HP, its easy, all wheel drive, big brake blah blah. just doesn't charge the glands like the Cobra.
''just doesn't charge the glands like the Cobra.''


BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I love it !
__________________
2007 BMW M Coupe / 1968 Mustang
Reply With Quote
  #22 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2013, 03:27 PM
DAVID GAGNARD's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: MARKSVILLE,LA.,,
Posts: 3,235
Not Ranked     
Default

I had a similar thing with my 25 year old daughter and my road race car....she has ridden as a passenger on some open track days and I have let her drive it with me in the passenger seat on some open track days and she's pretty good.....
Then she began begging to let her race it or build her her own race car......It didn't take me long to think this one thru.....

My conclusion was if something happened to her, I could never forgive myself for letting her do it in the first place..........

She still drives on occasion, but only with me in the passenger seat....

To heck with the car,can you live with yourself if your son got hurt or heaven forbid,killed while driving YOUR Cobra?????

david
Clayboy likes this.
__________________
DAVID GAGNARD
Reply With Quote
  #23 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2013, 03:59 PM
itstock's Avatar
CC Member/Contributor
Visit my Photo Gallery
Gold Star Contributor
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 445
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DAVID GAGNARD View Post
I had a similar thing with my 25 year old daughter and my road race car....she has ridden as a passenger on some open track days and I have let her drive it with me in the passenger seat on some open track days and she's pretty good.....
Then she began begging to let her race it or build her her own race car......It didn't take me long to think this one thru.....

My conclusion was if something happened to her, I could never forgive myself for letting her do it in the first place..........

She still drives on occasion, but only with me in the passenger seat....

To heck with the car,can you live with yourself if your son got hurt or heaven forbid,killed while driving YOUR Cobra?????

david
My goodness, to think what horrible parents all of those that have professional race car driving children must be! THE HORROR!
Reply With Quote
  #24 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2013, 04:05 PM
DAVID GAGNARD's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: MARKSVILLE,LA.,,
Posts: 3,235
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by itstock View Post
My goodness, to think what horrible parents all of those that have professional race car driving children must be! THE HORROR!
To each his own............I'm not knocking those parents, it was their decision as it was MY decision........they have to live with it and so would I,just something I'm not ready to live with should it go bad........

David
__________________
DAVID GAGNARD
Reply With Quote
  #25 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2013, 04:06 PM
RodKnock's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
Posts: 9,591
Not Ranked     
Default

No. Not enough driving experience in my opinion and the accident statistics are OVERWHELMINGLY against him.

Read here about the national statistics for teenagers: Teenage Driver Crash Statistics
Reply With Quote
  #26 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2013, 04:25 PM
PatBuckley's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Atlanta, GA
Cobra Make, Engine: CAV GT40 with 331 KC
Posts: 2,187
Not Ranked     
Default

I wouldn't let ANYONE drive my car.

I think that covers it.
Clayboy likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #27 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2013, 04:31 PM
patrickt's Avatar
Half-Ass Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,011
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock View Post
No. Not enough driving experience in my opinion and the accident statistics are OVERWHELMINGLY against him.

Read here about the national statistics for teenagers: Teenage Driver Crash Statistics
Yep, my brother actually stumbled upon this one. Ferrari teen driver dies from injuries in Alpharetta crash | www.ajc.com
Reply With Quote
  #28 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2013, 05:02 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: York Co. Maine USA, ME
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427 S/C W/Holmon Moody Original Nascar build #508 Iron Block/heads (C5AE-H) Bal/Blu 427 Sideoiler; 780 Holley Dbl. Pump; 4 Speed Top Loader; AP Racing Bks; IRS; 15" Trigo pins
Posts: 391
Not Ranked     
Thumbs up

I guess it all depends on your son. His driving skills, his respect for what these cars can do!! We were driving & romping @ 17 yrs old in csx 2058, csx 2372 & CSX 3116. Not to mention GT 350's & 500's, Jag's, Vette's, 300SEL's. We were blessed with acess to a awsome collection of rides & also damm lucky to stay alive on more than one occasion. Yes, we lost a few tires & engines racing. But we never racked one up into a tree etc. If you believe your son is ready after a little self teaching on the merits of a AC & you feel secure in his skills. Let him try a short day cruse & progress from there. Good luck to both of you.
Reply With Quote
  #29 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2013, 05:56 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 773
Not Ranked     
Default

I let my son take my Cobra Tribute to the Prom when he was 17. But, I followed him in a chase car and I picked it up from the parking lot before the prom was over. Since then I let him drive the Cobra on day trips through the mountains of New England and Up State NY. But, I am the passenger or following in my Miata. My Cobra is pretty mild (405hp LS6) and has great brakes, and handling.

He has raced go karts since 10, different classes of sprint cars and asphalt late models. I haven't had to pay for racing the past few years as he has had rides offered to him.

He's 19 now. He's never had a ticket or accident. From the beginning he needed to be with me when we worked on the karts/cars, be respectful to others and the vehicles, and get great grades. And, all aggressive driving is done at the track. Not on public roads. Driving the Cobra is a reward earned as well. A reward that we enjoy together.
Reply With Quote
  #30 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2013, 06:03 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SEVERN, Ont
Cobra Make, Engine: SP
Posts: 103
Not Ranked     
Default

My kids will not ask to drive my Cobra because there scared of it.
Reply With Quote
  #31 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2013, 06:37 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Lighthouse Point, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: EverettMorrison,408W,Jag rear, toploader
Posts: 85
Not Ranked     
Default

No don't let him drive the cobra
Reply With Quote
  #32 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2013, 06:43 PM
Donunder's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Brisbane Australia. Cobra:Arntz Chev 454,
Posts: 847
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by john chesnut View Post
I let my son take my Cobra Tribute to the Prom when he was 17. But, I followed him in a chase car and I picked it up from the parking lot before the prom was over. Since then I let him drive the Cobra on day trips through the mountains of New England and Up State NY. But, I am the passenger or following in my Miata. My Cobra is pretty mild (405hp LS6) and has great brakes, and handling.

He has raced go karts since 10, different classes of sprint cars and asphalt late models. I haven't had to pay for racing the past few years as he has had rides offered to him.

He's 19 now. He's never had a ticket or accident. From the beginning he needed to be with me when we worked on the karts/cars, be respectful to others and the vehicles, and get great grades. And, all aggressive driving is done at the track. Not on public roads. Driving the Cobra is a reward earned as well. A reward that we enjoy together.
I've been reading through this thread looking for a reply I totally agreed with.

This is it.
__________________
Don.
Reply With Quote
  #33 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2013, 11:16 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance
Posts: 663
Not Ranked     
Default

Jason, I let my oldest drive the Z06 with me in the passenger seat at 18 and he has solo'd in it the past three years. He respects it but he also knows you can have fun if you never forget that fact. He refuses to try the Cobra, even after tossing him the keys. LOL

Ride along with him until you're both comfortable with a solo effort. He will respect you (and love you) more for that. ;-)
Reply With Quote
  #34 (permalink)  
Old 11-16-2013, 12:08 AM
MaSnaka's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster
Posts: 1,367
Not Ranked     
Default

I taught my 16 year old how to drive a clutch and shift in my car. Yes there were some moments of regret but I was always in the passenger seat. Hey it's only a clutch. They can be fixed.

One day coming home from a drive with him at the wheel we are stopped at a red light and this crotch rocket pulls up next to us. I jokingly said something like your not going to let him get ahead of us are you? Holy crap when the light turned green my son took off after that bike and scared the crap out of me.

There is a great picture of him driving us through the snake at Mulholland in Colin Comers latest book , Shelby Cobra Fifty Years. Bottom line is I would like to be passenger to supervise. Good luck!

John
Reply With Quote
  #35 (permalink)  
Old 11-16-2013, 01:33 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Cape Town, WC
Cobra Make, Engine: Shamrock
Posts: 421
Not Ranked     
Default

Fortunately I don't have that problem but if I did I would not do it until the kid had had proper high performance driving tuition and lots of skid pan use, and shown promise in handling high performance cars - and then only allow it when I was in the car with him.

I would also discuss this with his mother and get her opinion.

I would also join him on all the driving courses as a father son bonding exercise and to up my skills.

I would also severely limit throttle travel the first few times we went out together and then ease off the limit as he became more trustworthy over the next ten or twenty outings.

I could think of nothing worse then the guilt of losing him in the car as no matter whether you were right or wrong in allowing him to use it, you and your wife will blame you for the decision - most probably destroying your marriage and your happiness.
Reply With Quote
  #36 (permalink)  
Old 11-16-2013, 02:28 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Naracoorte, SA
Cobra Make, Engine: CR Cobra 3169
Posts: 818
Not Ranked     
Default

Let him drive it, and disconnect four plug wires.
JD
Reply With Quote
  #37 (permalink)  
Old 11-16-2013, 05:46 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 195
Not Ranked     
Default

I bought my Boss 429 when I was 18 with my Dad's blessing.
I never wrecked it but there were several "O S--T" moments
I drag raced it and generally drove the snot out of it.
I know,I know,it's not a Cobra,but my point would be that I bought it with my own money and it was my responsibility.
Birthday presant,take your son or daughter somewhere they rent rides in someone else's Cobra or otherwise overpowered beast and let them cut their teeth.
Then if the desire is strong enough that they simply cannot live without owning one help them build one that they pay for.
If they are responsible for it there is a better chance they will respect it.
A wrecked car is no fun and worse yet,would you let your daughter climb into her boyfriends new Cobra if he just borrowed it .
Let them buy their own.
TN Shelby Cobra likes this.
Reply With Quote
  #38 (permalink)  
Old 11-16-2013, 06:04 AM
joyridin''s Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,695
Not Ranked     
Default

If driving the Cobra lets him appreciate what real power and handling are all about, let him do it. Beats him taking the family car out on a road some night with his foot to the floor and killing himself.
Reply With Quote
  #39 (permalink)  
Old 11-16-2013, 06:45 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Weatherford, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: 427 S/C
Posts: 80
Not Ranked     
Default

No Effing way.

GRUFF
Reply With Quote
  #40 (permalink)  
Old 11-16-2013, 08:45 AM
Bartruff1's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: Midstates/Shell Valley Street Cobra
Posts: 899
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jhv48 View Post
Sure, let him drive it.

With you in the passenger seat!
Assuming your insurance will cover him....I would also pick out the road.
leroy17 likes this.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy
Links monetized by VigLink