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03-23-2014, 04:43 PM
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CSX3026 which is the real cobra
CSX3026 as stated on the build sheet located on the passenger side window
I attended the mount Dora Museum of Speed on March 14, 2014 owned by Kerry Bogard showing us his personal car collection. There was a blue cobra with signs indicating it is CSX3026. All I want to know is which cobra is real the red CSX3026 owned by Anthony Boosalis or Kerry Bogard blue version of CSX3026
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Dan Wulff
I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
(No doubt, most will blame it on the donuts.)
You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.
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03-23-2014, 04:53 PM
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Anthoby Boosalis owned CSX3026
CSX3026 build sheet of blue cobra
Shelby Cobra 427 SC Roadster
Guardsman Cobalt Blue-Black Leather
427 Cubic Inch Side Oiler w/525HP 2-4v Carbs
T-10 Top Loader 4-Speed w/Inverted Shifter
Chrome Rollbar-Stewart warner Gauges
One of a Handful w/Underchassis Exhaust
Independent, rack & Pinion Suspension
Build Sheet
Shelby American, Inc. CSX3026
1042 Princeton Drive
Venice, Calif. EX 16389
Sold to:
Burton Motors Invoice No.04233
1300 ETE Street
Sacramento 14, California
Ship via Invoice Date Terms C.O.D.
Commercial Carrier 8-18-64 Due on Presentation
Medley Amount
5,195 00
Quantity Shipped Part No or Reference
1 Cobra-Ford, Chassis # CSX3026
Engine # 5214
Group “A” Accessories
Tuned Air Cleaner, Chrome
Aluminum Rocker Arm Covers
Front Grille Guard, Chrome
Rear Bumper Guard, Chrome
Exhaust Pipe Tips, Chrome
Adjustable Wind Wings
Tinted Sun Visors
Smith Heater
Seat Belts
White Side Wall Tires 250.50
Antifreeze 3.55
Double Asbestos (roll) Sheeting Fire Wall
25.00
Less: Deposit 1,000.00
Total Amount Due: $4,474.05
Taken from The World Registry of Cobras & GT40S 4th Edition
CSX3026 red cobra
Unpainted/black interior, billed to Shelby American on 1/2/65 CSX3026 was finished under work order #15081 as a full competion car, and was invoiced to the Horn- Williams Motor Co. (Dallas, TX) on 3/16/66: “1 competion model,CSX3026, 1966 cobra, silver, $9.650.00” with an additional charge for bronze bushings ($106) and Koni shocks ($240, installed). Fright charges to truck 3026 to Dallas ($185) made Horn-Williams’ final cost $10,281.00, William McNamara (Dallas, TX) specially ordered the cobra in ’66 Buick Riviera color code Z, Silver Green Metallic, and is thought to have raced the car in Europe during ’66 and ’67. A scrutineer’s tag was found in 3026 from Brands Hatch, dated 1/22/67, by the cars next owner. F. Gene Fisher (Carlisle, PA) who bought the car in ’68, by this time, it had been repainted red and featured stainless steel side pipes, Fisher painted the car medium metallic blue with white racing stripes over the hood and front fenders and installed a full-width black roll bar, using 8.5” FIA Halibrands front and rear, Fisher raced 3026 in the northeast region of the SCCA in A/P, establishing track records at Bryar Motorsports Park (NH) and Summit Point (WV) in ’70. The cobra was sold circa ’72 to Curtis Jackson (Oxford, GA) following which it was repainted red and fitted with a street exhaust system while retaining its full roll bar. Investment Motorsports (IL) bought 3026 in ’87 and gave it a thorough rebuild over the next three years with Bill Murray (Longmont, CO) doing some of the work, the car appeared for sale early in ’91 at a price of $825,000, painted Rangoon red and fitted with a competion windscreen, black side pipes, black quick-jacks, a black driver’s roll bar and 6.5”/8.5” FIA Halibrands. It was purchased through George Stauffer/Stauffer Classics (Blue Mounds, WI) by Ken Quintenz/DK Associates (Columbus OH), who advertised the car again in 8/91: “Factory Competion 427 cobra #3026. History in Shelby Registry and in supporting documents, meticulously and perfectly restored by hand using all of the original components of this car. $895,000.” He elected to keep 3026 rather than sell it, and brought it to SAAC-17 (Portland, OR) 7/92 and SAAC-18 (Watkins Glen, NY) 7/93. At the latter, 3026 received a premier award in the Concours competion class. The cobra repeated at SAAC-22 Road America (Elkhart, WI) 7/97. 3026 was available for sale as of early ’97 through Lee Holman of Charlotte, NC. Modified for Vintage Racing with a fuel cell, a dry-sump oiling system on the passenger floor, a roll cage with safety beams in the doors, and other upgrades, 3026 was acquired in ’04 by Symbolic Motors (LaJolla, CA). They sold it to Gary Campilongo (Pleasant, CA). From whom Anthony Boosalis (LaCanada, CA) bought it 3/06. 3026 has been pictured in the Shelby American, #62, P.31; #64, P,41 (bottom); #66, P.27; P. Hazan’s “AC Cobra 260-289-427,” P.66(#16); Rinsey Mills’ “AC Cobra,” P.144 (top); Vintage Motorsport Magazine, 11-12/98, P. 55.
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Dan Wulff
I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
(No doubt, most will blame it on the donuts.)
You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.
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03-23-2014, 05:02 PM
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Didn't you get the memo from Ned?
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03-23-2014, 06:01 PM
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The red car is 3026, A full comp model. The description of the blue car as 3026 would be incorrect as an "SC". Also, doesn't the rollbar look a little low on the blue car?
Larry
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03-23-2014, 06:10 PM
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The blue Mt. Dora car appears to be an ERA replica. It's for sale at an asking price of $87,500: 1989 AC Cobra for Sale | ClassicCars.com | CC-455544
And yes, it sports a repro chassis plaque stating that it's CSX3026.
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03-23-2014, 06:13 PM
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Blue car also has a molded hood scoop. Short fat roll bar too. Looks like a contemporary to me.
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03-23-2014, 06:32 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SunDude
The blue Mt. Dora car appears to be an ERA replica ...
And yes, it sports a repro chassis plaque stating that it's CSX3026.
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Well, he gets partial credit for a pretty ballsy move, at least....
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03-23-2014, 06:50 PM
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$87,500! He must be pretty proud of that car!
Larry
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03-23-2014, 09:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LMH
$87,500! He must be pretty proud of that car!
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Seems that way...
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COBRA 427SC ROADSTER
A BEAUTIFUL ERA COBRA S/C (SEMI / COMPETITION) ROADSTER WITH AN ORIGINAL FORD COBRA 427 CUBIC INCH SIDE OILER MOTOR ( 550 +H.P.), WHICH CARRIES CORRECT CARBS, RECTANGULAR -TUBE FRAME, JAGUAR SALISBURY REAR-END AND AN ORIGINAL FORD T-10 FOUR SPEED GEARBOX WITH CORRECT 'REVERSE' SHIFTER ( IT ACTUALLY ' CORRECTLY ' FACES THE FRONT OF THE CAR). SHE'S FINISHED IN COBALT METALLIC GUARDSMAN BLUE W/ WHITE LEMANS STRIPES AND ORIGINAL BLACK LEATHER BUCKETS. IT FEATURES THE BONUS OF A BLACK EVERFLEX SOFT TOP WITH FRAME / SIDE WINDOWS AND WILTON WOOL CARPETS. IT HAS THE CORRECT HALIBRAND-TRIGO 'STARBURST' MAGS W/ WIRED-DOWN KNOCK-OFFS & WIDE PROFILE TIRES , CORRECT CHROME ROLLBAR, CORRECT / ORIGINAL FIVE POINT RACING HARNESSES, ORIGINAL WOOD STEERING WHEEL WITH 'AC' BRISTOL HORN BUTTON AND 'AC' STAINLESS PEDALS. WE REPLACED THE ORIGINAL "QUICK JACK" BUMPERS WITH CHROME NERF BARS BUT, THE TALBOT RACING MIRROR, AND ORIGINAL STEWART-WARNER TACH / GAUGES WERE RETAINED. THIS IS A "STREET VERSION" S/C, WHICH EXISTENCE CAN BE VERIFIED IN ANY SHELBY COBRA BOOK, AND ONE OF ONLY A HANDFUL BUILT WITH SIDE EXHAUST 'DELETE' AS BURNT CALF WAS NOT ON THE MENU. ONLY 3,968 MILES ON THIS UPGRADED MONSTER MOTOR & PAINT TO INCLUDE $14,000+ IN RECEIPTS. SHE'S ADDITIONALLY ERA OPTIONED WITH THE LUCAS RECTANGULAR TAIL LIGHTS, HEATER, FUNCTIONAL HOOD SCOOP, CORRECT KNURLED DASH KNOBS, LOCKING HOOD HANDLES, EMERGENCY BRAKE HANDLE, SUPPLEMENTAL COOLING PACKAGE, OIL COOLER, LUCAS 'PL' STAR HEADLIGHTS, CHROME ROLLBAR, BRASS CORE RADIATOR AND EVEN AN ORIGINAL FLIP-BACK LICENSE PLATE BRACKET W/ ORIGINAL CALIFORNIA DEALER PLATE. THIS GREAT CAR WAS BUILT FOR A DOCTOR IN CALIFORNIA AND TITLED IN 1989 USING AN ORIGINAL 427SC HE OWNED FOR SIDE-BY-SIDE, DEAD-ON MATCH COMPARISON. PERFECT PATINA...EVEN DOWN TO A FAUX SHELBY DATA PLATE. I BOUGHT IT FOR THE HEIR TO THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER FORTUNE WHO LATER TRADED IT , AFTER DRIVING IT JUST UNDER 1,000 MILES. WE THEN SOLD IT TO A WEALTHY OKLAHOMA BUSINESSMAN WHO KEPT IT AS A WEEK-END DRIVER ON HIS JUPITER ISLAND ESTATE. HE TRADED IT AFTER TWO YEARS ON A BIG BRAKE '61 VETTE. I KEPT IT AS A BACK-UP DISPLAY COBRA FOR OUR CAR MUSEUM FOR THE LAST 14+ YEARS. DO NOT COMPARE THIS TO THE CHEAP JUNK OUT ON THE MARKET. ERA IS WELL KNOWN FOR BULDING THE BEST INCH-FOR-INCH, DEAD-ON COBRA AND WITH AN ORIGINAL 427 MOTOR (RECENT PUBLISHED SALE $35,000-MOTOR ONLY) AND ANCILLARY FEATURES, THIS CAR IS THE BEST OF THE BEST. ALLOW TIME FOR REMOVAL AND PREP.
OFFERS NEAR $87,500.
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03-24-2014, 03:15 AM
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I knew the club cobra experts would give me the answers, our group got the tour & this cobra Kerry said was not for sale. He also has an AC cobra & later I will post a picture. With my original camera shot I can read all the BS around the blue cobra.
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Dan Wulff
I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
(No doubt, most will blame it on the donuts.)
You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.
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03-24-2014, 03:26 AM
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AC Cobra
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Dan Wulff
I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
(No doubt, most will blame it on the donuts.)
You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.
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03-24-2014, 06:21 AM
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Looks to be an Autokraft MkIV judging by the DOT-compliant bumper setup.
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Originally Posted by CobraDan
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03-24-2014, 06:38 AM
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Yes,
AC MK IV.
Bumper and center mount Jaguar XJ fuel filler are I.D.s. Also the interior lamp between the seats as well as the triple wipers required to meet the federal W/S clearing standards.
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03-24-2014, 06:47 AM
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both Cobras at the museum had glassed in hood scoops, so I was suspicious of both. Other things weren't right about the silver one and I figured it was a fiberglass car until I saw a DENT in the left front fender about 3" back from the headlite. Figured it must be an AC.
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03-24-2014, 06:55 AM
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The blue car is glass scoop, front fender inner lip is glass, hardware is kit like and again the roll bar; however the MKVI would have an aluminum molded in scoop and the door window attachment point is totally MKVI
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03-24-2014, 07:25 AM
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Thanks for all the info, the blue cobra was very hard to get to but when I got home & could read the Build Sheet which I copied & posted, I knew something was wrong. At $87K that is a high price for a kit but no ware near the price of a big block like the real CSX3026
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Dan Wulff
I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
(No doubt, most will blame it on the donuts.)
You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me
Earth is the insane asylum for the universe.
The gene pool could use a little chlorine.
The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.
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03-24-2014, 08:22 AM
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I don't know that much about the MKIV. Do they have that SC style lip to the rear fender?
Larry
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03-24-2014, 08:52 AM
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MKVI = Typically yes.......... S/C Lip
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03-24-2014, 12:15 PM
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The owner should be aware that there are legal issues involved with affixing a manufacturer's ID tag to a car bearing an incorrect VIN, especially when said VIN is owned by someone else and involves valuation in excess of a million dollars.
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03-24-2014, 12:17 PM
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Quote:
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The owner should be aware that there are legal issues involved with affixing a manufacturer's ID tag to a car bearing an incorrect VIN, especially when said VIN is owned by someone else and involves valuation in excess of a million dollars.
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Uhhh, what about the "oh, boys will be boys" defense?
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