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Old 05-21-2014, 04:34 PM
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... The cars need a makeover, pimped out with modern comforts- auto trans, AC, Heat, Nav system, traction control, bigger wheels, and engine choice, whether it is a Chevy, Ford, Electric, turbo, etc. These cars can be hip again. History has proven that everything old is new ...
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What you are describing is already out there. It's called a viper.
I was thinking vette, but both fit the bill.
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Old 05-21-2014, 04:36 PM
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I was thinking vette, but both fit the bill.
I was thinking the SLS.

The 2nd gen Viper, the only Viper worth buying, feels like almost as much of a go-kart as these Cobras do. And they do have A/C...if it's working. The other stuff, not so much.

As far as a vette being like the Cobra or appealing to the same market, I just don't see it.
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Re: the vette, from an appearance standpoint I would agree the viper has it hands down, but for creature comforts in a roadster you can get 'em all in a vette. There was a recent thread where a veteran cobra owner decided to sell for something more manageable, that something turned out to be a vette. The thread name was something like "I guess I've moved to the darkside".
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Insurance and regulation is going to kill this hobby long before a lack of interest in the Cobra itself.
I share the same concern. More the regulations than insurance (in Germany, my old home)
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Now I'm depressed, lol old fart....lol

Dam well someone like me still knows Morse code, uses vinyl records when I can and still has old MacIntosh amps with tubes in them. Hell I still have some old Plush amps I stole from Beck when he use to drown out Rod Stewarts vocals. Someone has to know the analogue stuff, the new kids know little of it.
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Old 05-22-2014, 02:12 PM
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I agree, digital can't move air.
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I actually find NYG’s viewpoint in this context refreshing. I’m not sure I agree with everything he says, but a digital perspective on what’s largely an analog hobby/business makes good food for thought. The corporate world is seriously challenged today as it tries to figure out how to capitalize on social media and understand what makes Gen Xers and Millennials tick. Those that figure it out will prosper and those that don’t or refuse to will stagnate. Perhaps not a direct translation to the future of the Cobra/kit car industry, but certainly worth considering. Please carry on.
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I actually find NYG’s viewpoint in this context refreshing. I’m not sure I agree with everything he says, but a digital perspective on what’s largely an analog hobby/business makes good food for thought. The corporate world is seriously challenged today as it tries to figure out how to capitalize on social media and understand what makes Gen Xers and Millennials tick. Those that figure it out will prosper and those that don’t or refuse to will stagnate. Perhaps not a direct translation to the future of the Cobra/kit car industry, but certainly worth considering. Please carry on.
I would like to know if Surface pro 3 Tablet/laptop is going to succeed.
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I would like to know if Surface pro 3 Tablet/laptop is going to succeed.
no. They make tablets.

Apple makes lifestyles.
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This thread has made me ponder what (if any) will be the collectable cars manufactured today?

What car of today will our kids desire enough to pay big dollars for when they are our age?

Certain Shelby Mustangs? Corvette Z 06's? GTR's?

Scarcity does not always equate to future value, but mass production certainly does not either.

I expect it partly depends on what is available in 30 or 40 years and there is no way to know that. If quality continues to improve as it has over our lifetimes the cars then should be fantastic.
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This thread has made me ponder what (if any) will be the collectable cars manufactured today?

What car of today will our kids desire enough to pay big dollars for when they are our age?

Certain Shelby Mustangs? Corvette Z 06's? GTR's?

Scarcity does not always equate to future value, but mass production certainly does not either.

I expect it partly depends on what is available in 30 or 40 years and there is no way to know that. If quality continues to improve as it has over our lifetimes the cars then should be fantastic.
Supra, 03/04 Cobra, GTR, Carrera GT, Ford GT, 2nd gen Viper (specifically the iconic 96/97 GTS blue with/white), boss 302 (newer ones), and I don't know enough about imports but I'm sure there will be more of them that make the list. The new SLS will bottom out in the next 5 years as well, so add that to the list.

For reference, I'm 29.
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no. They make tablets.

Apple makes lifestyles.
That right there is funny.
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For reference, I'm 29.
I have hiking boots older than that and they're still not broken in.
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That right there IS funny.
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One of my salesmen has the 2nd GTR that came to CA (been a while now).
To this day kids follow him home and talk to him. We even get little crowds of kids at work that just want a close up view.
Personally, I dont see it with the GTR but all he talks about are missed opportunities with old Mustangs, Camaros, etc.
I keel telling him, if you want an opportunity, keep the GTR.
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I have hiking boots older than that and they're still not broken in.
Well, it would help, if you used them...
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Supra, 03/04 Cobra, GTR, Carrera GT, Ford GT, 2nd gen Viper (specifically the iconic 96/97 GTS blue with/white), boss 302 (newer ones), and I don't know enough about imports but I'm sure there will be more of them that make the list. The new SLS will bottom out in the next 5 years as well, so add that to the list.

For reference, I'm 29.
Agree with your list. Might even add the new Z28.
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Well, it would help, if you used them...
Obviously...bite me.

Actually...many, many miles in them in the Sierra. These aren't the panzyassed athletic shoe type hikers they sell today...old heavy full thick leather, screwed in soles, steel shanked, etc. for reaching the high Sierra camps and Evolution Valley lakes for goldens.

Function and performance over creature comforts.

Like a Cobra, if you will.
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Supra, 03/04 Cobra, GTR, Carrera GT, Ford GT, 2nd gen Viper (specifically the iconic 96/97 GTS blue with/white), boss 302 (newer ones), and I don't know enough about imports but I'm sure there will be more of them that make the list. The new SLS will bottom out in the next 5 years as well, so add that to the list.

For reference, I'm 29.
Any car in a popular video game like Gran Turismo.


The Lexus LFA was made between year 2010- 2012. Showroom price $450,000 U.S. dollars. So in 30 years, this car will sell for double, triple, or break even?
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Any car in a popular video game like Gran Turismo.


The Lexus LFA was made between year 2010- 2012. Showroom price $450,000 U.S. dollars. So in 30 years, this car will sell for double, triple, or break even?
It should have been a $250k car.
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