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06-04-2014, 11:00 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA 'Street' Build
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clayboy
Larry Ellison's "million dollar skunkworks cobra" had a golden brown leather interior and I very much doubt that it would be sold for $155,000. OBO.
Bob
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Very likely not the Ellison Cobra for the reasons above and as I recall, Keith Craft built the motor, not FE Specialties.
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06-05-2014, 04:13 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Windham,,
Me
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Before I paid that kind of money for a car it would be scrutinized in every way. The best of everything always makes me suspicious that it is always a very opinionated subject plenty of threads to back that up.
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06-05-2014, 05:00 AM
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Super Moderator
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
Posts: 14,448
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Well, let me say this about that...
Total bullsh!t and after all of the trials and tribulations of the last decade, listing a replica under EBay's separate listing for originals (or describing them in Hemmings or anywhere else like that) totally pisses me off as well. Shouldn't have to read crap like "Kirkham wood-grained polished wheel" to figure it out.
Of course it's not Ellison's...I have one of the polished arruminum presentation books the Kirkhams made of it...with the swaths of luscious brown leather inside (computerworks has one too). At that price!?
Figured it might be Mark's given the reference.
Don't give a good golly damn if it's a dealer or someone trying to flip it...no excuses in my book...period. I have no patience for stupidity in my greying state.
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06-05-2014, 09:45 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: MIDLOTHIAN,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BACKDRAFT
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You guys sure know how to get agitated over trivial stuff. Maybe as we get older we just don't have too many ways to vent our stresses (frustrations), because the kids may have left home and the wife is about to leave too, so we find these kind of non-sense of get all pissed off about..
The wife is not home anymore and kids are gone, however golf relief my stress.
Golf guys, don't waste your pissing days off on what a add may say.. Who cares.. The buyer who purchase it will only pay if he is satisfied...
Get a life.....
By the way, it is a good looking Bugatti at a Kirkham Cobra replica price..
LOL.. this is fun!
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06-05-2014, 09:51 AM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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...and I really hate golf!
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06-05-2014, 10:16 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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This rare Bronze 289 Kirkham showed up on eBay with the heading " 1966 Shelby Cobra." Though the 2nd heading does state "Kirkham."
Shelby Cobra | eBay
I agree with ItBites. Kleenex is brand, but also is used generically.
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06-05-2014, 10:46 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: sac., ca,
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Cobra Make, Engine: owned Kirkham for 11 years
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Morris,
I`m surprised no one has bid on that great 259 Kirkham.
Maurice
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06-05-2014, 11:12 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Columbus,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 714
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While I concur with the misleading advertising being wrong, I would not let this post bother me. Seems to me that the originals are certainly museum pieces and works of art that are best parked and not ran and appreciated for what they are. Todays replicas are mostly built very well and in many cases even better than the originals. The Kirkhams are beautiful vehicles.
Phil
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06-05-2014, 12:19 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamo
...and I really hate golf!
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I hate golf sometimes, but it is challenging..
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06-05-2014, 04:21 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Leicestershire,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #523, 427 S/O
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Morris
That's why I listed mine on EBay as KMP259 which is a Kirkham but in Illinois it's registered as a 1965 Ford Coupe. But I listed. All of the modifications we did as opposed to just a Kirkham vehicle. And we can list 2 separate web sites to show the build process.....
Shelby Kirkham 427 Roadster Morris Aero Package | eBay
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An absolute bargain, knowing what's gone into it.
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06-05-2014, 04:44 PM
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Location: MARKSVILLE,LA.,,
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamo
...and I really hate golf!
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Not only do I not like golf,I don't like people that like golf!!!!!!!!!!
David
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06-05-2014, 05:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blykins
What makes me mad are bogus dyno numbers like that. 640 lbft? Yeah, whatever...
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What makes you think a FE specialties aluminum 462 can't get you that level of torque?
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06-05-2014, 05:37 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: saratoga,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #185, Shelby Alloy 482; sold
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My 482 from Tom (FE Specialties) peaked at 625 ft-lbs.
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06-05-2014, 05:39 PM
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Location: Westerly,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Fordstroker 408w custom solid roller-Craft ported Brodix 17*heads-CFM ported Vic Jr. intake-1 3/4 primaries- 575hp-TKO-600RR Liberty upgrade- -Moser 8.8 trutrac-McLeod Street Extreme--QA-1-Wilwood brakes, Classic Chambered 3" Cobrapacks, Avon's
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What happens when you type in 32 ford for sale!
As long as the first sentence is Built By ... ERA, B&B. Backdraft ect, i would be alright with it.
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06-05-2014, 06:32 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Gurnee,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #259
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Quote:
Originally Posted by maurice19
Morris,
I`m surprised no one has bid on that great 259 Kirkham.
Maurice
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Maurice
Me to.....a lot of lookers......3000 views/25 watchers ....no takers......
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06-05-2014, 06:40 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #259
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FatBoy
An absolute bargain, knowing what's gone into it.
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Fatboy
And that's including all of the spares......Diff,Wheels,Rotors & Pads, Cluthes and many other items.....
I'm having a hard time with feeling in my feet.....makes driving KMP259 a real chore....it needs someone to take it to the next level......maybe soon.....
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06-05-2014, 07:18 PM
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Banned
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
N.J
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Morris
Maurice
Me to.....a lot of lookers......3000 views/25 watchers ....no takers......
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Absolutely one of the most stunning Cobras I have seen. It is so beautifully done my only issue would be it's to nice for the track.
As to the ad, all ads should accurately state what is being offered for sale. The ad in question does not. This is the kind of stuff that pissed CS off and rightfully so.
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06-05-2014, 08:00 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Shreveport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SAI; '68 427FESO Southern Automotive
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Morris, Jesus Christ! Your car is a beast. I absolutely love the ground effects. The front spoiler is a piece of art. Good luck with the sale.
About the misleading headline, I'm sure it has happened once or twice, but how many original CSX cars have been sold on Ebay anyways? I doubt many owners of original cars use Ebay as a market venue, nor do buyers who are in the know. I guess my point is that he who is looking on Ebay for a Cobra will almost invariably be looking for a replica... If you look at this ad and believe you are buying an original car at $155,000, then you probably have no business getting into a Cobra in the first place
I do not think there is anything wrong with a catchy headliner. It made you all look, right? Are some of the description inflated statements? Sure, but it is the responsibility of the buyer to determine that. Are we to assume he is selling this car to a caveman who just got his/her license, or a reasonably intelligent individual that can research and do his homework before shelling out $155,000? This seller is not a lier, he's a good salesperson. He released the maker of his replica, and tried to use some superlatives to sell what is a drop in a sea of Cobra replicas...
When the time to sell my "1965 Shelby Cobra Semi Competition" comes, I will be loosing money, because mine does not have its dash signed by CS, and is missing the original magnesium wheels
Cheers!
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06-06-2014, 06:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamo
...and I really hate golf!
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I have very little hate in my bones but golf is one that would come close. We certainly all march to a different beat.
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06-06-2014, 08:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mdross1
I have very little hate in my bones but golf is one that would come close. We certainly all march to a different beat.
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I love golf so much, I even invite my ex Mother In-law to play with me... LOL
Why can't we all get along?
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