The time to build a CSX roller?

[NewYorkGuy]

Originally Posted by AL427SBF

Glad you guys found some common ground to become buds, it was only a matter of time, birds of a feather
_

Wassup, Al, I miss you. True. You are here to entertain us.
proud new yawker! We don't have paper mache skin.

Be well,

Back to my fantasy baseball roster. Would u trade Tanaka for Jose Abreu?

[Dominik]

Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy

So I was curious if any Cobra guys could tell us about their good and bad experiences waiting for their car. It is a 2 year wait for a CSX roller and $hit happens in life.



nyg

Ask for waiting time for cars that were ordered in 2003...
Oh no, oups, that is history!

[Jamo]

NYG...you sorta hit the nail on the head re the custom couch. As with anything being built on a custom basis, problems can occur. The Dying Guy issues, as you probably gathered from reading the thread, involved a dealer that was having business problems, so there can be a story just like a salesperson quitting or dropping the ball. Sometimes an engine builder can get behind. Watch some of the reality car builder shows on Velocity and it almost looks like the entire custom car industry is a semi-controlled explosion.

That being said, I see comparatively few issues erupt with the different mfgs, and the problems that do occur do end up here in one form or another. sometimes it's just waiting on one element...look at big ol GM waiting for someone to build some ignition switches that don't go boom in the night.

When you're talking about rollers being built by the mfg (Kirkham) or dealers (CSX)...just using those two as distinct examples...much of it depends on the customers as much as the builder. I've mediated and arbitrated enough disputes (AAA) when hot rod builds go south to say it's like building a home...every little change a customer wants to make can throw a whole damn build off, but they don't quite understand it since they're not wearing the builder's shoes.

When it's a custom roller build, patience, detailed build specs and measured involvement by both parties are the keys. In my case, I wrote my specs with a Sharpie on the bare raw arruminum with Davey and Tom...had to go to Provo a few times for ass fittings (literally)...and they stayed on my ass to make sure I made decisions when they needed to be made and in a clear manner. In my case, it also depended on when shipments from Poland were scheduled...I was lucky enough to jump on a shipment list due in a few months. Same thing with Boghosian, my engine builder less than 10 miles away. That old man made me run to keep up with him (and I'm normally the guy pushing others)...make up my mind on what I want on the top end but understand that he reserved the right to tell me I was a stupid kid (50 at the time compared to his 70s) and that he'd make the decision for me.

Then again, I've been waiting for 9 months for a custom watch band (old WWII ammo pouch leather).

[REAL 1]

NYG: are you contemplating a Shelby purchase in the near future? 1-2 years?

Jamo: Really, a watch band made out of leathet from a WWII pouch? . How do you know their not using NYGs italian couch for the leather? Also, Could be they they called the Kirkhams for measurements and think they need more material. Likely explains the holdup. I've got an old WWII M1A1 ammo clip pouch. It's not leather though. Make me an offer.

[Jamo]

peasant...

Don't laugh...NATO straps made out of the canvas WWII pouches are cool on traditional pilot-style or field watches.

I look at everything wondering what it would look like as a watch strap. Our bearded dragon's big enough to where I think I'm making it nervous staring at it.

[Dominik]

Jamo did a nice summary on anything custom made. I wish more (potential) clients would understand that. In every field of manufacturing!

A Cobra builder here in SA once taught me: "Don't even let the client change one switch, the width of the stripe or the color of the leather. You will regret it!"

[MRGEORGE077]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

No. He's trolling again.

Trolling will only bring up the dead body's , but OMG, we don't want to see that so let's just stick our heads in the sand. George

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by MRGEORGE077

Trolling will only bring up the dead body's , but OMG, we don't want to see that so let's just stick our heads in the sand. George

How in the hell are you missing the memo? I've posted in damn near every thread possible...move on and don't post if you don't like a thread, and stop the damn comments about each other.

right back at ya.

[MRGEORGE077]

Originally Posted by Jamo

How in the hell are you missing the memo? I've posted in damn near every thread possible...move on and don't post if you don't like a thread, and stop the damn comments about each other.

right back at ya.

Just speaking the truth Bro. Don't get you panties in a wad, life is to short.

[Jamo]

Yup...life is short. So is the 2 days you can have off.

It'll take me that long to unwad my panties.

Anyone else think I'm not serious?

[REAL 1]

Nope. Your serious.

Have to plan a get together so you can let your hair down and relax.

[bret a ewing]

NYG,

CSX 4802.

Nov 2004 - ordered from HRE. Delivered May 2006.

Bret.

[Al G]

CSX 6045

May 2010 - Ordered
September/October 2010 - factory in Mexico closed, reordered from the South Africa factory
September 2011 - delivered to dealer
February 2012 - finished car delivered to me

I'm leaving out all the sordid details. There are other threads here that go into those.

[rodneym]

Interesting time line, Al. SA turned around extremely quick.

[csx4017]

CSX4017LA

Purchased from distributor's inventory 11/09
Completed car 12/10
Denbeste,Hillbank, etc have rollers in their inventory.

DenBeste Motorsports, LLC - Inventory

[damdfw]

CSX 4973

November 2007 - Ordered
March 2008 - delivered to me
...... 1.5 years to collect parts and have engine built (mostly budget constraints)
June 2009 - Dropped engine in.
September 2009 - on the road.

[MRGEORGE077]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Yup...life is short. So is the 2 days you can have off.

It'll take me that long to unwad my panties.

Anyone else think I'm not serious?

I am sure everyone takes you serious, anyone that has a pin and a phone and the ability to censor free speech, if their words don't line up the way you like them better take you very very serious. George

Thanks for letting me out Jamo


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[Jamo]

Don't ever think I enjoy having to moderate. I like to come here and just read stuff and post if I have something to add. I like this place enough to spend the time trying to keep things to a low rumble. Think of me like a good version of traction control, where you can still kick the rearend around a little.

Good video...I get it.

[MRGEORGE077]

Thanks, I got it also. George