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12-14-2014, 09:41 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR chassis and suspension, Mr. Bruce 289 FIA body
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289 FIA Bungee Mounts
Can some tell me:
1) How far down below the lip of the trunk
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2) Spacing between the two
I have the washers (thanks to a forum member who's picture I used) and need to accurately locate them.
Thanks
Bill
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12-15-2014, 06:30 AM
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The bad part is, there is not one car like the other out there with the same bungee mount location.
The good part is, you can place them wherever you like (in a sense). Some are in the center of the horizontal line, some above - some below.
For me I choose the CSX 2345 style width.
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12-15-2014, 08:53 AM
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Here a picture of the CSX 2345 today...
and a picture how the car looked like 1964 at Targa Florio....
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Scratch build 289 FIA see the Scratch builder forum on CC - sold
DRB GT40 MK1 red #49- sold
FF5 Mk4 #7733 302/T5/IRS - dark blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #7812 427/TKO/IRS - Guardsman Blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #8414 501/TKO600/48IDA Ollie the Dragon #91 - sold
FF5 Daytona Coupe 347/TKO/IRS Homage CSX2299 Viking Blue - sold
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12-15-2014, 11:16 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #2119 289FIA
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GPete, your attention to detail is evident, even on your billet bungee cord washers. Uber Nice!
Don't the steel ends on the cord rub or vibrate against the paint?
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12-15-2014, 11:41 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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Here is what I did, more 3020
Again, no two are the same....... Most do not even know about the cord.
Painted over metal as well................
Last edited by 1985 CCX; 12-15-2014 at 02:11 PM..
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12-15-2014, 12:56 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SAI FIA, 289HP (5-bolt), 48IDA Webers
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Here's how the bungee cord plates usually looked when installed originally by SAI, remember that the race Cobras were usually ordered with the body in primer and then painted after any modifications were performed...you should also remember that these were race cars and as such things were done in the simplest most effective way, the plates were simply made from sheet metal with the needed holes then mounted and the car was painted. Each cars modification were done by the mechanics that were assigned to that particular car, that is why there are variances in the number of rivers and the placement of the plates on each car.
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12-15-2014, 01:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl Bebout
GPete, your attention to detail is evident, even on your billet bungee cord washers. Uber Nice!
Don't the steel ends on the cord rub or vibrate against the paint?
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The are even slightly rolled, so they fit the body contour . Yes, these coils rub on the paint, for (against) that I have two round dots 1.5 inch clear masking film on the contact spots. No harm to the paint job.
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FF5 Mk4 #7733 302/T5/IRS - dark blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #7812 427/TKO/IRS - Guardsman Blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #8414 501/TKO600/48IDA Ollie the Dragon #91 - sold
FF5 Daytona Coupe 347/TKO/IRS Homage CSX2299 Viking Blue - sold
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12-15-2014, 02:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl Bebout
GPete, your attention to detail is evident...
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...and still the guys don't believe me that 95% of all quick jack brackets are mounted the wrong way...
These pictures are self explaining...they have that shape for a reason.
Over the years the owners/mechanics put them on the wrong way - and it became fashion. Like baseball caps wearing backwards or sideways. There was a reason for that shield but it got lost...
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Scratch build 289 FIA see the Scratch builder forum on CC - sold
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FF5 Mk4 #7733 302/T5/IRS - dark blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #7812 427/TKO/IRS - Guardsman Blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #8414 501/TKO600/48IDA Ollie the Dragon #91 - sold
FF5 Daytona Coupe 347/TKO/IRS Homage CSX2299 Viking Blue - sold
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12-15-2014, 02:10 PM
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You are correct but they did not use acorn nuts.............
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12-15-2014, 03:32 PM
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Y......and typically 289 Cobras not 427 Cobras. The hex head of the bolt was visible not the nut end of the bolt.
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12-15-2014, 07:01 PM
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Yup
There was not a ton of polish. Mostly get it on the car.
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12-16-2014, 12:56 AM
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Thanks guys. Really appreciate all the help. Off to the garage tomorrow to fab up some parts!!
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12-16-2014, 01:45 AM
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12-16-2014, 06:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1985 CCX
You are correct but they did not use acorn nuts.............
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Well, they used all kinds...CSX 2431
CSX 2557
Shorted standoffs, still bolts not nuts...
As I said they used all kinds -- like on this 1.8 million car....
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Scratch build 289 FIA see the Scratch builder forum on CC - sold
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FF5 Mk4 #7733 302/T5/IRS - dark blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #7812 427/TKO/IRS - Guardsman Blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #8414 501/TKO600/48IDA Ollie the Dragon #91 - sold
FF5 Daytona Coupe 347/TKO/IRS Homage CSX2299 Viking Blue - sold
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12-16-2014, 06:12 AM
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Yes, I do my homework
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Scratch build 289 FIA see the Scratch builder forum on CC - sold
DRB GT40 MK1 red #49- sold
FF5 Mk4 #7733 302/T5/IRS - dark blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #7812 427/TKO/IRS - Guardsman Blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #8414 501/TKO600/48IDA Ollie the Dragon #91 - sold
FF5 Daytona Coupe 347/TKO/IRS Homage CSX2299 Viking Blue - sold
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12-16-2014, 07:37 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 3020 Competition, 427; CSX 4385 Aluminum Body, 427; CSX 2096, 289
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Ok, so I guess I have my quick jacks on backwards
I guess that's why it keeps falling off of the Jack when I'm underneath the car!
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12-16-2014, 08:22 AM
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And modest...............
All kinds were used but acorns -- nope.
They did put them in backwards with the bolt end out. Restored cars seem to have gone this way. That's ok.
The bulk of the 289's were street thus bumpers. Race cars used what was available and easy.
Many 427's also do not represent original status as they were race cars, those with jack pads S/C and comp, and many with bad histories. Thus wrecked and restored x time and time again...... and few in numbers.
That said, ok... The rest of the 427's were street, bumpers...
Your car is awesome, would love to no more about it as it looks great and the white is a fantastic choice. Fell in love with 3028 as it too is white.
No picking a fight, just appreciate the banter....
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12-16-2014, 08:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gthompson
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Ok, so I guess I have my quick jacks on backwards
I guess that's why it keeps falling off of the Jack when I'm underneath the car! [/quote]
427 cars will not have the jack crossbar clear the oil cooler scoop unless "reversed" from the 289 position. As the 289 oil cooler scoop is recessed as compared to the 427, the quick jacks can be further inboard. I would think the rears would still be in the 289 mounting orientation.
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12-16-2014, 09:11 AM
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GPete,
"The are even slightly rolled, so they fit the body contour. Yes, these coils rub on the paint, for (against) that I have two round dots 1.5 inch clear masking film on the contact spots. No harm to the paint job."
I did notice the roll and just knew you'd have something that would prevent maring the paint. Examples of just why I was hot to buy your car a couple months ago. Wish I would have gotten my insurance payout soon enough to have made the deal, before the car went off the market. I did wind up with a very nice ERA FIA that I really like, but your car....WOW!
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12-16-2014, 11:39 AM
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289 facing inward
427 facing outward............
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