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12-22-2014, 02:19 PM
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Senior CC Premier Member
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
Posts: 3,574
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodneym
Berni,
If you make your way to the South Bay, bring your hood ornament.
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You lost me on that one Rodney. I will definitely look you up next trip up there though!
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12-22-2014, 02:23 PM
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CC Member/Contributor
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
Posts: 12,687
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alloycars
This will clear out everything. No more guessing:
alloycars.com/cobra.html
Tom
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"Tom", I suspect you are one of the following players:
ROBERT ATANASOV (Typical southern Florida used car dealer)
INGO POTH (supposedly president of the Company since 2012 when the company incorporated)
I kind of doubt you are actually Cristiane Roget (abnewwire PR firm).
Perhaps you are really Carlos Chomut the webmaster for your site, seeing how quickly the items that you claimed were yours and actually called out on were removed in a wholesale fashion.
I see that KOAMTV had a nice self reported (Cristiane did do nice work on it) PR piece on your company, perhaps they would like to do a follow up once a link to this particular thread on club cobra finds it's way in to their inbox.
I will however call you out on your claim of 150 aluminum cobra replicas being built and shipped overseas. I say this as I personally had some enlightening overnight correspondence with a rather well connected Brazilian specialty car broker I've done business with who has never heard of you, nor has seen more than a few Aluminum Cobras in his country (Kirkhams and originals, and one hand built about 10 years ago).
Regardless of the pile of manure you spread here, here is wishing you the happiest of holidays.
Bill S.
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12-22-2014, 02:28 PM
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CC Member/Contributor
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Forgot my disclaimer: I do not work for, nor have I ever worked for an Cobra replica manufacturer . The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of this clubcobra.com member and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company.
Bill S.
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12-22-2014, 02:47 PM
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Banned
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Cobra Make, Engine: Aluminum Alloycars MK5-Roadster 427FE Engine
Posts: 102
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MR G-Pete
Little role in my Butt. We built the whole car but it proves AGAIN that you dont know what you are talking about.
I am gladly surprised how many afford some members are taking to follow us. Isnt it nice?
Robert Atanasov is Alloycars partner.
Ingo is our Boss.
Cristiane is Public Relation (TV and other stuff)
Tom (me): German & Sales Manager....for some guys too much in one as I can see here
I dont see something wrong with that Spyder on Youtube. But that you mean that Florida people are scumbags this is interesting.
Well, the boss is German and the crew comes from here and from the north.
And if you cant access the webcams means only that you must be some kind of retarded as even our oldest "82 years" can access it easily.
But it must be why we are in Fort Lauderdale-Florida, right?
So whats next? Coward mrmustang and company hiding behind avatars.
Or should I ask: "Why are you guys so afraid that we are going for an aluminum Roadster"
AFRAID OF COMPETITION..is the answer. So go ahead. We are coming soon..I promise.
FINAL RESPONSE.
TOM
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12-22-2014, 03:03 PM
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Senior CC Premier Member
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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Well, this has been fun and seems to be becoming a trend.
I for one am going back to folks with steering column issues and real questions about how to build their cars...
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12-22-2014, 03:04 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Chattanooga,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance # 1774 / 392 Stroked Windsor
Posts: 464
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alloycars
MR G-Pete
Little role in my Butt. We built the whole car but it proves AGAIN that you dont know what you are talking about.
I am gladly surprised how many afford some members are taking to follow us. Isnt it nice?
Robert Atanasov is Alloycars partner.
Ingo is our Boss.
Cristiane is Public Relation (TV and other stuff)
Tom (me): German & Sales Manager....for some guys too much in one as I can see here
I dont see something wrong with that Spyder on Youtube. But that you mean that Florida people are scumbags this is interesting.
Well, the boss is German and the crew comes from here and from the north.
And if you cant access the webcams means only that you must be some kind of retarded as even our oldest "82 years" can access it easily.
But it must be why we are in Fort Lauderdale-Florida, right?
So whats next? Coward mrmustang and company hiding behind avatars.
Or should I ask: "Why are you guys so afraid that we are going for an aluminum Roadster"
AFRAID OF COMPETITION..is the answer. So go ahead. We are coming soon..I promise.
FINAL RESPONSE.
TOM
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HHHMMMM- 11 posts and about all of them negative!! Not a good way of trying to sell Cobra's! Just saying!!!
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12-22-2014, 03:10 PM
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Senior CC Premier Member
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
Posts: 3,574
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodneym
Berni,
If you make your way to the South Bay, bring your hood ornament.
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OK Rodney, you got me there. Didn't realize you were talking about my avatar. Sure, I'll bring her. You pay the freight and a nice dinner at Mama's! I could have a few hurdles on the homefront though, but anything for a fellow member!
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12-22-2014, 03:12 PM
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CC Member/Contributor
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
Posts: 12,687
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alloycars
MR G-Pete
Little role in my Butt. We built the whole car but it proves AGAIN that you dont know what you are talking about.
I am gladly surprised how many afford some members are taking to follow us. Isnt it nice?
Robert Atanasov is Alloycars partner.
Ingo is our Boss.
Cristiane is Public Relation (TV and other stuff)
Tom (me): German & Sales Manager....for some guys too much in one as I can see here
I dont see something wrong with that Spyder on Youtube. But that you mean that Florida people are scumbags this is interesting.
Well, the boss is German and the crew comes from here and from the north.
And if you cant access the webcams means only that you must be some kind of retarded as even our oldest "82 years" can access it easily.
But it must be why we are in Fort Lauderdale-Florida, right?
So whats next? Coward mrmustang and company hiding behind avatars.
Or should I ask: "Why are you guys so afraid that we are going for an aluminum Roadster"
AFRAID OF COMPETITION..is the answer. So go ahead. We are coming soon..I promise.
FINAL RESPONSE.
TOM
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Tom,
Guess you missed my disclaimer above. I can see you truly promoting your company through the alienation of your target audience.
It would have been easier for you to just come out and say "I messed up and will take care of making it right" instead of lying to everyone here and on Ebay, as if you were smarter than everyone else who has, or will read this thread, and your posts of denial of responsibility.
Bill S.
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12-22-2014, 03:15 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Redding,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR chassis and suspension, Mr. Bruce 289 FIA body
Posts: 1,066
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12-22-2014, 03:26 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
Well, this has been fun and seems to be becoming a trend.
I for one am going back to folks with steering column issues and real questions about how to build their cars...
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No, No, please don't stop!
Regards.
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12-22-2014, 03:30 PM
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CC Member/Contributor
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alloycars
I ask: "Why are you guys so afraid that we are going for an aluminum Roadster"
AFRAID OF COMPETITION..is the answer. So go ahead. We are coming soon..I promise.
FINAL RESPONSE.
TOM
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Tom,
As an end user, we love to see when there is competition in the aluminum Cobra market, why, simple, because then the players generally get in to a pricing war, we as the end users win because we then get a quality product for less than the current competition. So, as you can see, your argument does not hold water, nor does your assertion that someone is afraid of your company for it being in competition with the known Aluminum Cobra replica players. What we are afraid of is that everyone else associated with your company is not willing to be up front and honest about what they have to offer us, the potential customers. So far, and I'm sure I am not alone, I have not seen anything that would ever want me to do business with you or your company.
Bill S.
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12-22-2014, 03:30 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Tampa,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Everett Morrison
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Tom, I find it entertaining that you confuse the many views and comments to this post so far as a possible benefit to this start up effort.
Calling members retarded? Wow. And you're in sales?
And as mentioned earlier, security must mean safety in the numerous descriptions here and on the website. Maybe learn the terminology, might even help if you ever get the chance to sell this thing.
I still want to know who Ozzie is.
Oh, and don't say this is your last response. We've heard it before, and it's never true.
Subscribed
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12-22-2014, 03:39 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
Posts: 5,573
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Well, OK Tom, how about providing us with the following:
Get one of your happy customers to send us photos of the completed vehicle with power train installed and registered somewhere.
The more the better because 1 does not make any kind of trustworthy source.
In fact, even one of your other vehicles would go a long way towards establishing trust. I see all kinds of references to other things, but noone even here has stepped in and said "yeah, I saw one of those and was (impressed, depressed)".
Right now you have zero, no, negative, credibility...
As they say in Missouri, show me.
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Tony
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12-22-2014, 03:40 PM
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Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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Originally Posted by Rawkkrawler
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I still want to know who Ozzie is.
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And where did this Seven7 fellow that wanted to go out on his own go?
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12-22-2014, 03:45 PM
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I think this group would embrace a new supplier with quality product, even if it is saddled on top of someone else's chassis. But so far we have no reason to believe that this is anything but vaporware.
I personally do not like the way the car looks. I want it to look like a real Cobra on the inside, not something with wood dash and soft things going around the top. All that is missing is fuzzy dice. Maybe they're an option
I think you'll find authenticity is important for a large number of the people here.
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Tony
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12-22-2014, 03:49 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rawkkrawler
I still want to know who Ozzie is.
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Ozzie is (or was) the owner of the company (or was as of 04-22-2009 when he joined CC) as seen in the following post:
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Originally Posted by alum550
Hello all, my name is Ozzie and I own Alloycars,
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His contact information he posted is also as follows:
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Originally Posted by alum550
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Aren't you glad you asked
Bill S.
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12-22-2014, 03:52 PM
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Location: Provo,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
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Any of you guys work for the FBI?
Wow. That's a lot of info in a very short time. Thanks for all the post guys.
David
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12-22-2014, 03:56 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Tampa,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Everett Morrison
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmustang
Ozzie is (or was) the owner of the company (or was as of 04-22-2009 when he joined CC) as seen in the following post:
His contact information he posted is also as follows:
Aren't you glad you asked
Bill S.
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Thanks Bill!
Both Ozzie and the Website list 813 area codes, originating in the Tampa Bay area.
The email is also a Verizon.net, also originating in the Tampa Bay area.
I wonder how they were connected to the West Coast of Florida.
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Tampa Fl
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12-22-2014, 05:15 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: LA Exotics
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So Dan, how about taking a ride over to Alloycars and meeting with the team. Give us an overview. You're only 2 hours away.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CobraDan
Ingo Poth Master coachbuilder & President of Alloycars Inc.
[img]http://www.alloycars.com/images/
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12-22-2014, 05:58 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
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Well,
Another stolen picture being used by the fine folks at Alloycars, just so happens to be owned by a good friend from FFcars, Greg_M, he is pissed that the company swiped his picture and is portraying his car as one they built.
And for when they change it, I've attached both pictures to this post.
Bill S.
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