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Old 01-03-2015, 11:56 AM
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Oh ja...Mr Retarded....we built the whole car only. Oh, I forgot..we didnt built the engine and suspension. One word.. R E T A R D E D

Does someone pay you???
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Do you conduct yourself like this on the Porsche Club of America site? Or are you even allowed on it anymore...
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Old 01-03-2015, 12:15 PM
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Do you conduct yourself like this on the Porsche Club of America site? Or are you even allowed on it anymore...
Are you kidding? The PCA doesn't allow replica Porsches to be marketed anywhere, whether online on pca.org or Panorama, their monthly mag.
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Do you conduct yourself like this on the Porsche Club of America site? Or are you even allowed on it anymore...
A quick perusal on some spyder forums may surprise you. Comments like ...

Ingo showed me his factory in Ft. Lauderdale and all the panel work being done. A very nice guy who answered all my questions and can provide any spyder part you need even if it has to be made from scratch ...

So I expect Ingo is just like anyone here, show him some respect and he will treat you with respect. Pretty simple, it's called human nature.

I do think real customers have an advantage over some of the keyboard **** slingers here, they actually got up off their ass for a factory visit which shows incentive.

I would like to meet Ingo some day, if for no other reason than to show me how to kick an ass into space so they can google earth.
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A quick perusal on some spyder forums may surprise you. Comments like ...

Ingo showed me his factory in Ft. Lauderdale and all the panel work being done. A very nice guy who answered all my questions and can provide any spyder part you need even if it has to be made from scratch ...

So I expect Ingo is just like anyone here, show him some respect and he will treat you with respect. Pretty simple, it's called human nature.

I do think real customers have an advantage over some of the keyboard **** slingers here, they actually got up off their ass for a factory visit which shows incentive.

I would like to meet Ingo some day, if for no other reason than to show me how to kick an ass into space so they can google earth.
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Hey, Thank you and I like that a lot. And finally you gave me the right word I was searching the whole time "Keyboard slingers". A fantastic description.
But as I told you. The future will tell the truths and I will provide next week already some videos how we are manufacturing our Spyders (we are not building) and a sneak peak of our Roadster production (Doesnt exist too..or?)
After this I wish that those "slingers" will be treated as nosy girly people they are. But normally they are not in shame and looking to attack other members.

Anyway, I am out for now so those Keyboard "slingers" have the live time opportunity to post more brainless crap.
For you and other "good sensed" Cobra members I will have some surprises you will really love if you are real cobra loving guys like me. And I will need exactly your help to get critics or ideas for my new project to get it as perfect as possible.

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Old 01-03-2015, 01:02 PM
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Now we have a new player, Ladies and Gents here I introduce Carlos....


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am a builder for this company. Alloycars. my name is Carlos and i make all the aluminum bodies by hand from scratch. u can see it live anytime. alloycars.com. and click on live. ive built 3 already. should have posted before. enjoy.
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I mean, sure a well made full aluminum body including hood trunk and doors is expensive. But what would be an amassing price for a full aluminum body? Ideal price?
I believe that something is worth only what people are willing to pay. And I'm curious to see if there is such a demand. Aluminum body's is what I make all day long. Mk4

We had 150 Cobras - then we came back to 14. Further there was one - and now we have 3 again.
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So...Rico Suave next? Or maybe Tony Montana?
Sorry AlloyCars, no intentional disrespect but just too easy on a Sunday afternoon.
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.... too easy on a Sunday afternoon.
Hey, it is Saturday

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RE the question about forming the panels.

I have done a bit of forming in my days and there aren't too many ways to make that large a panel. For panels that large, you are looking at either stretch forming, drop hammer, or hydroforming. Considering the size of their facility, my money is on stretch forming.

It's a shame they are making the prototype with the perky butt.
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It's a shame they are making the prototype with the perky butt.
It was quite clearly stated that the first prototype used a MKIII FFR body complete with perky butt and that a more accurate body is in the works.
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It was quite clearly stated that the first prototype used a MKIII FFR body complete with perky butt and that a more accurate body is in the works.
Yea I got that. What makes no sense is that the MKII or MKIII frame requires only a very minor modification to lower the rear. Most of the work is moving the trunk sheet metal. All the trouble to make the body you would think they would have spent the 30 minutes to drop the butt.
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It was quite clearly stated that the first prototype used a MKIII FFR body complete with perky butt and that a more accurate body is in the works.
I pointed out first the shape.

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Looks like (including the perky butt) a Factory 5 Mk. III and they use the same Quick Jacks as FF5.
The response was:

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Last year when we found a good opportunity getting an original of 427SC to take some scans. So we started over from scratch and here we are.

....and about 30 posts later they kinda admitted they have used a FF5 body. Pretty much there the Sh!t hit the fan.
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A quick perusal on some spyder forums may surprise you. Comments like ...
As many players already here are involved and we have no idea who they are...a handful "customer" reviews don't weigh much. Especially when there are claims of 150 Cobras build in Brazil, at least 14 left overs 2010 in the US and 4 lately. One for sale on Ebay and 3 build in the fall by "Carlos".
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Just one completed car somewhere, please! Believe it or not, some folks would like to try to help you help yourself here.
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Its live...on cameras. How retarded I must be to ignore a fact like that?
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Its live...on cameras. How retarded I must be to ignore a fact like that?
For what it's worth, the word or term "retarded" is considered insensitive today in America, because we have folks who are born or become both physically and mentally challenged. So most people avoid the term, similar to, but not the same, as racial insensitivity.

However, you can continue to use that term, but you may find a parent of a developmentally-challenged child, social worker or special education teacher who might get very upset with you.
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For what it's worth, the word or term "retarded" is considered insensitive today in America, because we have folks who are born or become both physically and mentally challenged. So most people avoid the term, similar to, but not the same, as racial insensitivity.

However, you can continue to use that term, but you may find a parent of a developmentally-challenged child, social worker or special education teacher who might get very upset with you.
Yeah, I'm one of those parents with a daughter with epilepsy. I have really, really, really tried to be civil here and will continue to do so. Very sad to see someone going to the level of school kids.
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I did some searching about and there is a lot of positive being said about Ingo Poth and the Porsche replicas. Somehow I don't think that will make any difference to some of you - you've decided it's war and now validation of your position is all that matters. The thread with Carlos is where the use of the FFR chassis was discussed as an idea. It looks like that has now turned into a project and I for one am interested in seeing how it turns out.
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Actually, I did, it appears he was commissioned by Ben and Rob Edwards , for a body and chassis only (which he may or may not have license to continue to produce from the Edwards, that is unknown at this time)

He then makes some minor detail parts (shift box, pedals, and now a jack ) for a Anand's Spyder (Beck replica)

Another interesting article where it is alluded to that Ben and Rob (owner ofSpyder Creations in CT.) Edwards bought their car turn key from alloycars, even though this FOX NEWS story tells the true tale.

I will however give ABNnewswire and maybe even Fury Advertising kudos for flooding the web with the same PR story to different state and local outlets in an attempt to make Alloycars appear bigger than real life.

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I did some searching about and there is a lot of positive being said about Ingo Poth and the Porsche replicas. Somehow I don't think that will make any difference to some of you - you've decided it's war and now validation of your position is all that matters. The thread with Carlos is where the use of the FFR chassis was discussed as an idea. It looks like that has now turned into a project and I for one am interested in seeing how it turns out.
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Actually, I did, it appears he was commissioned by Ben and Rob Edwards , for a body and chassis only
This is some phantastic work.The body looks spot on and the CAD screenshot is proof that it was actually reverse engineered from a scanned original car:



However the aluminum Cobra bodies shown earlier clearly differ from the shape of the Original.

This is just my observation - I'm not interested in joining the general argument...
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I did some searching about and there is a lot of positive being said about Ingo Poth and the Porsche replicas. Somehow I don't think that will make any difference to some of you - you've decided it's war and now validation of your position is all that matters. ...
Afraid so, and the longer the war rages on, the more cheap shots and low blows you will see.
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