Cobra replica alum body by Alloycars on ebay

[AL427SBF]

Originally Posted by Bernica

I must ask...
Do you conduct yourself like this on the Porsche Club of America site? Or are you even allowed on it anymore...

A quick perusal on some spyder forums may surprise you. Comments like ...

Ingo showed me his factory in Ft. Lauderdale and all the panel work being done. A very nice guy who answered all my questions and can provide any spyder part you need even if it has to be made from scratch ...

So I expect Ingo is just like anyone here, show him some respect and he will treat you with respect. Pretty simple, it's called human nature.

I do think real customers have an advantage over some of the keyboard **** slingers here, they actually got up off their ass for a factory visit which shows incentive.

I would like to meet Ingo some day, if for no other reason than to show me how to kick an ass into space so they can google earth.
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[Alloycars]

Originally Posted by AL427SBF

A quick perusal on some spyder forums may surprise you. Comments like ...

Ingo showed me his factory in Ft. Lauderdale and all the panel work being done. A very nice guy who answered all my questions and can provide any spyder part you need even if it has to be made from scratch ...

So I expect Ingo is just like anyone here, show him some respect and he will treat you with respect. Pretty simple, it's called human nature.

I do think real customers have an advantage over some of the keyboard **** slingers here, they actually got up off their ass for a factory visit which shows incentive.

I would like to meet Ingo some day, if for no other reason than to show me how to kick an ass into space so they can google earth.
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Hey, Thank you and I like that a lot. And finally you gave me the right word I was searching the whole time "Keyboard slingers". A fantastic description.
But as I told you. The future will tell the truths and I will provide next week already some videos how we are manufacturing our Spyders (we are not building) and a sneak peak of our Roadster production (Doesnt exist too..or?)
After this I wish that those "slingers" will be treated as nosy girly people they are. But normally they are not in shame and looking to attack other members.

Anyway, I am out for now so those Keyboard "slingers" have the live time opportunity to post more brainless crap.
For you and other "good sensed" Cobra members I will have some surprises you will really love if you are real cobra loving guys like me. And I will need exactly your help to get critics or ideas for my new project to get it as perfect as possible.

The mean old Ingo

[G-Pete]

Now we have a new player, Ladies and Gents here I introduce Carlos....


08-29-2014

Originally Posted by Seven7

am a builder for this company. Alloycars. my name is Carlos and i make all the aluminum bodies by hand from scratch. u can see it live anytime. alloycars.com. and click on live. ive built 3 already. should have posted before. enjoy.

09-17-2014

Originally Posted by Seven7

I mean, sure a well made full aluminum body including hood trunk and doors is expensive. But what would be an amassing price for a full aluminum body? Ideal price?
I believe that something is worth only what people are willing to pay. And I'm curious to see if there is such a demand. Aluminum body's is what I make all day long. Mk4

We had 150 Cobras - then we came back to 14. Further there was one - and now we have 3 again.
What is it?

[Rawkkrawler]

Originally Posted by G-Pete

PS: Just google ALLOYCARS....

Ingo, I do hope you have a well established client base that own fiberglass bodied Cobras and have an interest in your Aluminum bodies. Pete is correct, you should take a minute to Google or Yahoo your company and see for yourself. 3rd and 4th post tie ALLOYCARS to this thread.

I don't know about you, but I like to spend some time on the internet doing my research on a company before spending large amounts of money. You're future customers may very well be turned off by what they read.

But as you stated earlier, you don't care about sales, you do it for fun, and that's fine. I'm just a little confused as to why you haven't left your computer today. Are you under the impression that this will turn into a positive experience?

I think the comments from this forum are motivated by what we Americans call shock and disbelief. Standing your ground is one thing, but to attack each and everyone here is something entirely different.

I hope this somehow plays out in your favor, but it's a deep hole.

[Bernica]

So...Rico Suave next? Or maybe Tony Montana?
Sorry AlloyCars, no intentional disrespect but just too easy on a Sunday afternoon.

[G-Pete]

Originally Posted by AL427SBF

A quick perusal on some spyder forums may surprise you. Comments like ...

As many players already here are involved and we have no idea who they are...a handful "customer" reviews don't weigh much. Especially when there are claims of 150 Cobras build in Brazil, at least 14 left overs 2010 in the US and 4 lately. One for sale on Ebay and 3 build in the fall by "Carlos".

[mikeinatlanta]

RE the question about forming the panels.

I have done a bit of forming in my days and there aren't too many ways to make that large a panel. For panels that large, you are looking at either stretch forming, drop hammer, or hydroforming. Considering the size of their facility, my money is on stretch forming.

It's a shame they are making the prototype with the perky butt.

[Bernica]

Just one completed car somewhere, please! Believe it or not, some folks would like to try to help you help yourself here.

[Buzz]

I did some searching about and there is a lot of positive being said about Ingo Poth and the Porsche replicas. Somehow I don't think that will make any difference to some of you - you've decided it's war and now validation of your position is all that matters. The thread with Carlos is where the use of the FFR chassis was discussed as an idea. It looks like that has now turned into a project and I for one am interested in seeing how it turns out.

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by mikeinatlanta

It's a shame they are making the prototype with the perky butt.

It was quite clearly stated that the first prototype used a MKIII FFR body complete with perky butt and that a more accurate body is in the works.

[G-Pete]

Originally Posted by Bernica

.... too easy on a Sunday afternoon.

Hey, it is Saturday

[mikeinatlanta]

Originally Posted by Buzz

It was quite clearly stated that the first prototype used a MKIII FFR body complete with perky butt and that a more accurate body is in the works.

Yea I got that. What makes no sense is that the MKII or MKIII frame requires only a very minor modification to lower the rear. Most of the work is moving the trunk sheet metal. All the trouble to make the body you would think they would have spent the 30 minutes to drop the butt.

[Buzz]

Maybe so, but to me it looks like the issue involves the shape of the fenders as well (that old Contemporary DNA again) - but regardless - reshaping that one obviously wasn't a big priority. They want a more correct body now and they're building it from scratch.

[G-Pete]

Originally Posted by Buzz

It was quite clearly stated that the first prototype used a MKIII FFR body complete with perky butt and that a more accurate body is in the works.

I pointed out first the shape.

Post #7

Originally Posted by G-Pete

Looks like (including the perky butt) a Factory 5 Mk. III and they use the same Quick Jacks as FF5.

The response was:

Post#33

Originally Posted by Alloycars

Last year when we found a good opportunity getting an original of 427SC to take some scans. So we started over from scratch and here we are.

....and about 30 posts later they kinda admitted they have used a FF5 body. Pretty much there the Sh!t hit the fan.

[Alloycars]

Originally Posted by Rawkkrawler

Ingo, I do hope you have a well established client base that own fiberglass bodied Cobras and have an interest in your Aluminum bodies. Pete is correct, you should take a minute to Google or Yahoo your company and see for yourself. 3rd and 4th post tie ALLOYCARS to this thread.

I don't know about you, but I like to spend some time on the internet doing my research on a company before spending large amounts of money. You're future customers may very well be turned off by what they read.

But as you stated earlier, you don't care about sales, you do it for fun, and that's fine. I'm just a little confused as to why you haven't left your computer today. Are you under the impression that this will turn into a positive experience?



I think the comments from this forum are motivated by what we Americans call shock and disbelief. Standing your ground is one thing, but to attack each and everyone here is something entirely different.

I hope this somehow plays out in your favor, but it's a deep hole.

Yes, you hope..you are right....ATTENTION: This is written by a "keyboard slinger" described as before"

[Alloycars]

Originally Posted by G-Pete

I pointed out first the shape.

Post #7


The response was:

Post#33



....and about 30 posts later they kinda admitted they have used a FF5 body. Pretty much there the Sh!t hit the fan.

And one more....ATTENTION: This is written by a "keyboard slinger" described as before"

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by gpete

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
It was quite clearly stated that the first prototype used a MKIII FFR body complete with perky butt and that a more accurate body is in the works.
I pointed out first the shape.

Post #7
Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Pete View Post
Looks like (including the perky butt) a Factory 5 Mk. III and they use the same Quick Jacks as FF5.
The response was:

Post#33
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alloycars View Post
Last year when we found a good opportunity getting an original of 427SC to take some scans. So we started over from scratch and here we are.

....and about 30 posts later they kinda admitted they have used a FF5 body. Pretty much there the Sh!t hit the fan.

Originally Posted by Alloycars

Here an example of our aluminum body comparing to others. It is still unfinished and came fresh out from the forming sector.
We used an available MKIII body setup for our prototype as we didnt decide for what for model we are going for at this time. The next versions are FFR MKIV based but the way to build those bodies will be the same.
Advantage: As you can see the right or the left side of the car are made from TWO parts only. This means less weldings, less re-finish, less time which results in affordable aluminum bodies independent what for a body style you will use.


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This is the information I'm referring to. I have no interest in the 2 way pissing contest. Without knowing for sure - and it really isn't that important to me - I'd prefer to move on from the "Ingo is Tom" bull-hit and melodrama and take Ingo at face value to see whats up with this project.

[Alloycars]

Originally Posted by Buzz

This is the information I'm referring to. I have no interest in the 2 way pissing contest. Without knowing for sure - and it really isn't that important to me - I'd prefer to move on from the "Tom" bull-hit and melodrama and take Ingo at face value to see whats up with this project.

Always the same guys..guess why....ATTENTION: This is written by a "keyboard slinger" described as before"

[Alloycars]

Originally Posted by Bernica

Just one completed car somewhere, please! Believe it or not, some folks would like to try to help you help yourself here.

Its live...on cameras. How retarded I must be to ignore a fact like that?

[mrmustang]

Actually, I did, it appears he was commissioned by Ben and Rob Edwards , for a body and chassis only (which he may or may not have license to continue to produce from the Edwards, that is unknown at this time)

He then makes some minor detail parts (shift box, pedals, and now a jack ) for a Anand's Spyder (Beck replica)

Another interesting article where it is alluded to that Ben and Rob (owner ofSpyder Creations in CT.) Edwards bought their car turn key from alloycars, even though this FOX NEWS story tells the true tale.

I will however give ABNnewswire and maybe even Fury Advertising kudos for flooding the web with the same PR story to different state and local outlets in an attempt to make Alloycars appear bigger than real life.

Bill S.

Originally Posted by Buzz

I did some searching about and there is a lot of positive being said about Ingo Poth and the Porsche replicas. Somehow I don't think that will make any difference to some of you - you've decided it's war and now validation of your position is all that matters. The thread with Carlos is where the use of the FFR chassis was discussed as an idea. It looks like that has now turned into a project and I for one am interested in seeing how it turns out.