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04-14-2015, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
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Drama.
Trolling.
Whatever you wanna call it. Honestly, what other reason would there be to see a bunch of guys bantering back and forth?
Speaking of trolling, whatever happened to AL427SBF? Jamo put the zipper on him? |
04-14-2015, 12:03 PM
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Hmmm....
In reading a few threads, I'm coming to the conclusion that some Cobras have Chevy motors, and some attornies drive Cobras, but no attornies drive Cobras with Chevy motors.
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04-14-2015, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by blykins
Speaking of trolling, whatever happened to AL427SBF? Jamo put the zipper on him?
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No, I think he's just taking a breather. I'm sure he'll return. |
04-14-2015, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by blykins
Speaking of trolling, whatever happened to AL427SBF? Jamo put the zipper on him?
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He's gone, by choice or not. Remember the series of threads about an alloy Cobra maker in FL. I'll omit the name of the company to protect the innocent, and the guilty too.  |
04-14-2015, 01:00 PM
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I should have mentioned 390 FE. Likely forgot about it since it was never used in a production Cobra.
My bad.
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04-14-2015, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by REAL 1
I should have mentioned 390 FE. Likely forgot about it since it was never used in a production Cobra.
My bad.
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And the 221??? |
04-14-2015, 04:28 PM
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221's never made it.
By the time Shelby got an engine for CSX2000, it had a 260.
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04-14-2015, 04:43 PM
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True. There is an a$$ for every seat but if you want to do a Cobra replica correctly and stay true to what you are replicating there is no other way except 260, 289, 427 or 428 FE. Period.
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I think that would pretty much go without saying, but my guess would be out of all the Cobra replicas on the road these days, the ones being absolutely true to what they are replicating probably don't amount to more than 5-10%. |
04-14-2015, 05:08 PM
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In the world of Shelby-AC-Ford from the "what if" thru prototype, production, competition , was used221, 260,289,390,427,428 just to stay true.
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04-14-2015, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor maine
In the world of Shelby-AC-Ford from the "what if" thru prototype, production, competition , was used221, 260,289,390,427,428 just to stay true.
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Instead of parsing out or establishing the omissions (or not) in Evan's post above, I'd like to hear more about the almost "fist fight" with your buyer. Inquiring minds want to know. |
04-14-2015, 06:47 PM
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In the world of Shelby-AC-Ford from the "what if" thru prototype, production, competition , was used221, 260,289,390,427,428 just to stay true.
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Thanks for pointing out my omissions as to the nitty gritty fine details. However, no matter how far we dig, parse, peel, slice, dice or expose to microscopic examination and evaluation will there ever be any trace of Chebby power in any Shelby Cobra.
Lets not try to turn silk into a sows ear. Yes, I reversed it.
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04-14-2015, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor maine
In the world of Shelby-AC-Ford from the "what if" thru prototype, production, competition , was used221, 260,289,390,427,428 just to stay true.
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The 221 may have been used for fitting, but it never made it in the car that was born in Moon's shop, or driven by the press, or displayed at car shows, or that ever dreaded thing called 'production'.
But, if it makes you feel better, I'll add the 221 to the list of engines I'd rather have than a Chevy.
All in good fun. 
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04-14-2015, 07:04 PM
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I'm still not clear on who almost threw a punch at whom....  |
04-14-2015, 08:35 PM
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I think you have to say the 221 was the engine that started the whole thing. It was the engine that made Shelby contact Ford and AC. It was the engine that was first shipped to England, the first fitted into and driven by AC , the first that made everyone think it was possible and fitted first into what became CSX2000, and yes the first to removed and upgraded by the 260. A lot of firsts enough that I think it should be included in the lineup of Shelby engines.
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04-15-2015, 06:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REAL 1
True. There is an a$$ for every seat but if you want to do a Cobra replica correctly and stay true to what you are replicating there is no other way except 260, 289, 427 or 428 FE. Period.
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The more I read these responses the less they mean because of who they come from. Single minded at it's extreme, thankfully we have the freedom to pursue our own paths.
Why do we spend so much time trying to convince each other who's ways of thinking are correct. We are still talking replicars. |
04-15-2015, 08:28 AM
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The more I read these responses the less they mean because of who they come from. Single minded at it's extreme, thankfully we have the freedom to pursue our own paths.
Why do we spend so much time trying to convince each other who's ways of thinking are correct. We are still talking replicars.
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To the politically correct I wouldn't expect my comments to mean anything. To the politically correct its all warm and fuzzy and free exchange of ideas and its "all wonderful" when right and wrong is black and white. Here it's black and white.
Political correctness is crap and is in large part responsible for where our country is today on more counts than you can shake a stick at. You can take your political correctness and ...well ..
Yes, by all means. Go down your own path and pursue it to the extreme. Pursuing the Chebby option for power in a car that is supposed to replicate a Shelby Cobra is certainly going down a path but its a path going the wrong direction.
Where does it stop. Might as well use a VW chassis. What about Pontiac power? Chrysler Hemi power? Yeah. That's cool. White walls. Very classy. Digital gauges, bucket seats with head rests. Its all good!
The idea of a "replicar" is to replicate last I checked. Otherwise it's not a replicar is it? Its a ???????? But hey, its your interpretation so it must be beautiful. 
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04-15-2015, 09:37 AM
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To the politically correct I wouldn't expect my comments to mean anything. To the politically correct its all warm and fuzzy and free exchange of ideas and its "all wonderful" when right and wrong is black and white. Here it's black and white.
Political correctness is crap and is in large part responsible for where our country is today on more counts than you can shake a stick at. You can take your political correctness and ...well ..
Yes, by all means. Go down your own path and pursue it to the extreme. Pursuing the Chebby option for power in a car that is supposed to replicate a Shelby Cobra is certainly going down a path but its a path going the wrong direction.
Where does it stop. Might as well use a VW chassis. What about Pontiac power? Chrysler Hemi power? Yeah. That's cool. White walls. Very classy. Digital gauges, bucket seats with head rests. Its all good!
The idea of a "replicar" is to replicate last I checked. Otherwise it's not a replicar is it? Its a ???????? But hey, its your interpretation so it must be beautiful. |
That has to be the most idiotic comment so far.
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04-15-2015, 10:06 AM
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04-15-2015, 10:24 AM
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I really don't see where it's idiotic....
Political correctness has filled the US with a bunch of whiny babies...
And...
If you want a "kit car" that's one thing, but I agree that if you want a true replica of something, then it needs to replicate that object.
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04-15-2015, 10:37 AM
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Who really gives an $hit about political correctness and Chevy-powered Cobras. Evan is not an idiot for expressing his views on replicas and Cobra buyers/builders can do what ever they want to their Cobras, because they have freedom of expression as well.
No one here in the USA says we all have to get the same haircut.
I want to know more about Thor's sale that almost went sour and who almost got "clocked." |
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